LSD after psychosis

[Hydria Virga]

Hey I'm planning to take LSD to try understand what happened to me when I had my psychosis. I'm just wondering what the chances of psychosis will be and any safety measures or precautions I should take. I plan on only taking 1 hit I've done 5 before so I believe I can handle it. I don't think ill go psychotic as it was 1 kilo of shrooms that did it 1 hit should be nothing but I'm worried the doors have been opened and I may not come back. Opinions and suggestions plz.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

exercise extreme caution. many will probably advise you DO NOT do this.

and maybe they are right.

but maybe you are ready.. but is it worth that risk?


at the very least dose low.. cut a tab in quarters. see how you handle one, then two (on seperate occasions).

 

[Global]

When you say a kilo of shrooms, do you mean you ingested 1000g of shrooms?

 

[ewok]

I spent a period in hospital after taking datura, can take most things now without any issue's LSD included. Its cannabis that tips me back over the edge.

 

[Hydria Virga]

Considering the half tab. Yea somewhere between 1000 and 1500 grams but I should add this was wet weight and was gymnopilus which is considerably weaker and I had it over a 3-4 days without coming down. It's my suspicion that sleep deprivation and setting change to something unfamiliar was the factor that tipped me over the edge

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

It's my suspicion that sleep deprivation and setting change to something unfamiliar was the factor that tipped me over the edge

definitely doesn't sound like it would help.

sleep deprivation is terrible even without tryptamines.

sleep deprivation on 1kg shrooms is..:shock: :shock:

 

[jamie]

"Yea somewhere between 1000 and 1500 grams but I should add this was wet weight and was gymnopilus which is considerably weaker and I had it over a 3-4 days without coming down."

Well..what else were you expecting?

..just saying..

 

[cosmic butterfly]

1000-1500 grams of shrooms i think anyone would have psychosis

 

[JourneyToJah]

i would suggest you go with caution. better cut it in quarters and take bit by bit, because you can have too much from too little.

if i were you i honestly wouldnt do it. if you choose to do it take some glucose close to you and maybe some serotonin pills at hand.


take care and travel safely !

much love, j2j

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

I suffered a pretty bad phychosis after a huge dose of lsd, 50 60 hits of liquid in one dose. I couldnt use any psychedelics for about 5 years. I still have what some would call hppd but I dose lsd on occasion with no problem, a little goes a long way, although by no means should you play with your health, the kids on the hppd forums would curse us for having this discussion.

 

[ratpoison]

I would never use LSD to map what happened to me after eating mushrooms, I would only ever eat mushrooms (or drink aya) to figure what happened to me on LSD, reason being the dynamics of acid.

Acid has a tendency to make psychotic tendencies a lot more complicated and you'll probably need a (very sane/experienced) mirror/anchor person to do something like this in my experience...

I've myself been forced to eat like 400µg of acid to reverse a psychosis (from after acid + bad person trip) and if I was not very experienced and with my wise friend then I would've probably snapped and went strange, I tell you that was quite a mindfuck. It took me a solid ten days or so not to feel totally scattered apart mentally, tired/burned out and confused, and at that point we drank Ayahuasca to feel normal again and since that my mind has been way better than before.

But it was really messy, trust me. We needed to do paperwork and go through big parts of my life to clear up all the confusion, and our third participant was severely confused about what on earth was going on between the two of us. When I did not have my friend as a mirror here I would wander freely around in my mind with my shadow standing behind me with a knife in it's hand without me knowing I was dancing to it's rhymes.

Good luck at least!

 

[olympus mon]

Ive had 2 close friends over the years and countless people we have seen here showed me this is a really, REALLY bad idea. Im quite sure doctors would also advise you against using LSD right now.

Its always been the same outcome for my friends that suffer psychosis. LSD creates a worst psychotic episode in them that is long lasting and they usually end up checked into a hospital to be treated.

Not sure if mushrooms and others are the same but in my experiences in life LSD and somebody that suffers mental disorders is a way bad combo.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

yeh i agree with olympus mon, lsd there is definite risk of worsening the psychosis, if anything maybe ayahuasca since that helped me return and get centered after a bad lsd trip, nothing i found is more healing and therapeutic than aya esp through the purge since it rids of negative energies. But maybe time is your best friend now, with time it will fade and yeh you don't want to make it worse. wish you the best and feel better

 

[universecannon]

1000-1500 grams of shrooms i think anyone would have psychosis

exactly...someone entering psychosis from a ridiculously large dose of psychedelics combined with sleep dep and a bad setting is a very different thing from entering psychosis without taking anything at all

It can still be a risky thing to work with psychedelics after that though (although not as risky if you'd entered it sober...in which case i would highly highly recommend you DONT take psychedelics, at least not for a long time), so if you do choose to do that please have a sitter and start with very low doses in a well prepared set/setting. I've had what you could call a psychosis episode from mixing really high doses of mushrooms (and lsd one time) with cannabis/caapi vine joints in a bad set/setting and i'm fine now on psychedelics, but every one is different

definitely aya > lsd for this sort of thing though imo, if you choose to go that route. and start with vine-only brews. Other things that will also obviously help: exercise, writing/reading, yoga, meditation, healthy food, time in nature. And i would definitely be careful with marijuana from now on. Like ewok said, it can bring you right back to that place- especially if mixed with psychedelics before the peak.

 

[jamie]

I would microdose mushrooms.

.25g of cubes or relative dose of others. No more. Then you can tune into that energy on a subtle level and help to integrate. Then try .5g etc...unless you still dont feel normal..then I would just stay away. if your set on doing this though that is the route I would take.

This is not normal "psychosis". You took giant doses of mushrooms for 3 days strait while not sleeping. Thats just what happens when you do things like this? Have you read true hallucinations?

I dont think this is comparable at all to people who have psychosis normally occuring. This is triggered by large intake of psychedelics for days in a row with no sleep. That would twist anyones brain inside out.

 

[The Electric Hippy]

I'm with Olympus on this one; LSD is not the entheogen you want right now. Try jamie's suggestion if you're going to do anything. I personally would just stop for a while until you can get your head under wraps on your own. That's the approach I'm taking with DMT (breakthrough doses) and I feel that time apart from psychadelics would do you some good. There's a great piece on this in the FAQ about stopping if _____ isn't working for you, and how there is no shame in admitting that. It actually shows maturity and intellectual honesty. Rest, meditate, eat well, be well.

Peace and Love,

Electric

 

[Guyomech]

First, I concur with UniverseCannon- rest, good food, healthy lifestyle. That will sort out a lot. And time, integration. This process shouldn't be forced.

As far as tripping again goes, since you aren't a person who has psychotic breaks in the sober state, you probably are OK to proceed with caution. I've had similar experiences- twice on acid and once on psilohuasca- and I'm frankly glad that I didn't let those experiences end my psychedelic career. But I do proceed with far more caution now, even 15 years later. Now when I take low doses of acid it's warm and familiar. I often get this sense of, "Dude, you shoulda taken more!" on these low doses, but that's far preferable to wishing I'd taken less.

Now I'm really curious to hear the details- if they can even be described- of this experience that kicked your ass so hard...

 

[Hydria Virga]

I'm going to wait awhile and when I do start with 1/4. I'm on meds that stops psychs from working so I'm going to come of the meds properly first. Ill save some to abort it needed. Maybe in a year

I've done dmt 10-15 times and at a point the mushrooms felt really similar time dilation matched what I'd get on dmt. Without going into to much detail the standout things was believing I was Jesus, god, the grim reaper, another family member, looking into other dimensions through mirrors, the hospital kidnapped me in an alternate reality and brought my consciousness to their realm. And a lot of others.

 

[acacian]

I would recommend against this very strongly. Sure there is the off chance that it could help provide insights on the psychosis you experience.. it has provided a lot of really valuable insights on some of my anxieties and their roots. However it can also make them a lot worse. LSD will introduce you to a way of thinking that you might not be ready for, and may end up being quite a burden in your life. LSD has impacted me both positively and negatively. I have a hard time reccomending people take LSD for these sorts of purposes. Set and setting is in my opinion more important for LSD than ANY other psychedelics.....It is not to be taken lightly this one.. it is extremely powerful and will likely open a can of worms that will change your life forever.

This substance beckons a very deep respect similar to that applied with dmt. I definitely don't think you should do it until your in a better place.. if you do choose to though, please be 100% sure you are 100% committed.. you don't wanna take it and then decide you want out. Your in the acid realm for the long haul. Concentrate on the visions and do not spend your time contemplating them or what you are feeling. just feel it and let the LSD do its thing.. it is serious business

 

[Guyomech]

I want to second Jamie's advice about microdosing with shrooms. Half gram, gram at most. Very subtle- just a reminder of the direction they can take you in. This may give you the insights you're after. LSD might just be too different in character from shrooms to be helpful that way.

Keep a very qualified sitter in the next room if you choose to do this!