LSD after psychosis

[acacian]

I want to second Jamie's advice about microdosing with shrooms. Half gram, gram at most. Very subtle- just a reminder of the direction they can take you in. This may give you the insights you're after. LSD might just be too different in character from shrooms to be helpful that way.

Keep a very qualified sitter in the next room if you choose to do this!

yeah I think so too about the shrooms they have an uplifting presence I find I can detect even on the smallest of doses...something that wants to work with you. Funnily enough with acid I find the opposite to be true.. the smaller doses feel more uncomfortable whereas barriers come down easier on higher doses. Though for this particular circumstance and for most others I still couldn't recommend it. After my own experience the past couple years of overdoing LSD, while it has the chance of working wonders I will never recommend someone do it because of the other possible negative ramifications that can come of it. LSD can tip a troubled mind further over the edge.. or it can do the opposite, its a bit of a gamble if your in an already bad place

 

[DeMenTed]

Lsd is such a long trip with a slow comedown so drug induced psychosis is more likely to happen than say a dose of shrooms. Just my tuppence worth

 

[christian]

Hey I'm planning to take LSD to try understand what happened to me when I had my psychosis.

Man, you ingested 1 kilo of shrooms, no wonder you suffered psychosis. No need for LSD to show you what happened.

I think you are better to 'take a break', and do lots of reading up on stuff before trying this stuff again. There's no rush, and health comes first.

 

[hug46]

Hey I'm planning to take LSD to try understand what happened to me when I had my psychosis.

Man, you ingested 1 kilo of shrooms, no wonder you suffered psychosis. No need for LSD to show you what happened.

I think you are better to 'take a break', and do lots of reading up on stuff before trying this stuff again. There's no rush, and health comes first.

i agree. You"re saying "i took too many psychedelics and had a psychotic episode and now i"m going to take more". Sounds like you are a glutton for punishment. I know that there is a possibility of having a positive experience from this but you have opened a door that takes quite some time to get closed again, or at least understand what was in the room you opened said door to.
If you really feel you have to do this, go the mushroom route on small doses (like the others have already said) a hair of the dog that bit you. But if it was me i"d lay off for a while.

 

[The Neural]

Just don't do it. If you are under the impression that you need to know what happens during psychosis, read books on the subject. Don't risk causing another episode. Will it be worth it?

I am confident that even Hoffman would take you by the hand and have a stroll through the forests to experience those natural magical moments he described so nicely, and he would certainly raise an eyebrow to your proposed endeavour.

 

[Alex101]

I haven't experienced LSD but i wouldn't recommend it. Through my personal psychotic endeavours on cannabis, i am not interested in gaining insight on psychedelics until i can gain insights on myself on sober reality, through the means of meditation. At least i will be able to somewhat handle or understand different states/emotions and letting go of the mind.

While i am sure the experiences are totally different, and even though it is not a part of me anymore, i would not want a trace of doubt lodged somewhere to bring up something that sucks which i could've figured out sober, to interfere with what could be a profoundly beautiful experience. Just my 2 cents, take it with a pinch as i can't relate to the psychedelic world and my goals are different.

At the end of the day, all i found out of those unpleasant experiences is unresolved pain from the past or nonsense delusion. I think all psychotic behaviours arise out of a missing/lacking human need which can be rewired or healed.Although when i hear of the incredible potential of Ayahuasca i rethink myself. Whatever you decide, good luck.

 

[philalethes]

I think the important thing is to take a break for a while. Psychedelics are good for loosening up stuck concepts and patterns. But after a while you need to re-solidify your personality to do ordinary tasks. Basic survival requires being numb to a certain degree.

In the last year I started low dosing acid, diluting it in water so I could take about 10 mikes. I did this daily, and got so i immediately noticed an upper in mood and increase in the flow of creative ideas. A subliminal telepathy and sensitivity to evens surrounding me.

But my sleep was a little off and gradually grew more tired. Would wake up sparkly, often after deep churning up shit dreams, but after a few hours would poop out.

Took a break and began sleeping much better and was recovered in a week.

Thus for me the lesson is, don't fall into a rote pattern. Get rested, R&R, digest what you need to integrate, then wait a bit. Then surge again. The ego can be a good ally, but will also learn to use microdoses to try and get an edge in life.

Dissolve your patterns of consciousness to stay loose and limber; then take a break to recrystalize your persona.

You need to re-integrate after dissolving. I find that hemisphere balancing tools like Holosync to be fantastic for settling you down after a dissolution.

Lowdose is a great adjunct for personal discovery and inner viewing. Plan for the long run and go slow, don't try to blow yourself thru Heaven's doors with monster trips all the time, because you won't remember most of it, and won't integrate it.

 

[corpus callosum]

Hey I'm planning to take LSD to try understand what happened to me when I had my psychosis. I'm just wondering what the chances of psychosis will be and any safety measures or precautions I should take. I plan on only taking 1 hit I've done 5 before so I believe I can handle it. I don't think ill go psychotic as it was 1 kilo of shrooms that did it 1 hit should be nothing but I'm worried the doors have been opened and I may not come back. Opinions and suggestions plz.

As others have pointed out, using major hallucinogens when one has a past history of psychosis is definitely risky.Its important to recognise that a 'hit' of LSD is quite a vague way of looking at things and 1 'hit' could potentially be stronger than 5 'hits', unless all 6 'hits' as it were, were all of the same batch and had been tried and tested.

I also wonder what the merits are of trying to 'understand' aspects of the OPs psychotic episode through the use of more potentially "psychoto-mimetic" substances.How would this knowledge (assuming the trip did yield some useful insight) add to what the OP already knows reliably ie very large doses +/- sleep deprivation are a good way of precipitating psychosis?

Quantifying the 'risks' is neither an art nor science; variations between one individual and the next mean that one is basically shooting in the dark and the only thing that can be said for sure is......that one is taking a risk.Set and setting plus attention to dosage can tip things into ones favour but there are no guarantees.

Lastly, there are also "degrees" of psychosis which should be considered.Im sure many members have been rendered psychotic during a trip, and this is part and parcel of the whole endeavour which we all accept.Psychotic symptoms which persist beyond the trip itself, symptoms which require active treatment to settle or be controlled, lingering non-psychotic effects etc, etc all play into the balance of probabilities of coming unstuck with further use of hallucinogens.

 

[River of Thoughts]

Don't take LSD to figure out your psychosis. LSD will mindfuck you even more, LSD induces psychosis easier than any other entheogen IMO. I would try micro doses of IBOGA until it builds up but please exercise caution and do your own research on the bark. IBOGA saved me from a terrible LSD psychosis maybe it can help you too.

 

[spinCycle]

Never poke a bear with a stick.





Seriously, I would wait a while, like a year or more without psychedelics and try to integrate whatever you can and get feeling grounded again. I also agree with those who say micro dosing mushrooms would be the way to go if you really want a psychedelic experience, like in the 1/2 gram to 1 gram range. Just enough for a threshold experience without the deeper and sometimes challenging brain trip.

 

[embracethevoid]

Don't take LSD to figure out your psychosis. LSD will mindfuck you even more, LSD induces psychosis easier than any other entheogen IMO. I would try micro doses of IBOGA until it builds up but please exercise caution and do your own research on the bark. IBOGA saved me from a terrible LSD psychosis maybe it can help you too.

Do you think Iboga could prevent a psychosis that was in the process of building up, or reduce a psychosis in full blast?

I know it has some NMDA antagonism activity. How did Iboga help your psychosis?

I agree entirely that LSD is one of the more psychosis-inducing hallucinogens. There's something about it that etches the visuals into your brain and it's that very same etching (HPPD) which is directly connected to psychosis. Conversely for example iboga is the softest hallucinogen I have ever had the grace of experiencing; nothing but a full body balancing effect.