LSD + DMT. Best time to launch into hyperspace(?)

[DeeMenTalist]

Greetings everyone!
So as the title say...
I`m planning in the near future to take moderate dose(300ug) of LSD and want to smoalk DMT on top of lucy trip. Around 4 weeks ago i`ve smoked dmt on coming down from AL LAD trip(2x150ug hits). I couldn`t smoke it properly because visuals was still pretty intense and hardly brokethrough, but still it was an interesting experience(if you can say that, because i didn`t like it that much, i mean combo). So my question for you nexians is... What is the best time to vape some sacred molecule? When do you prefer to do this at the beginning of the LSD trip, on plateau or when you coming down? Please share your experience.
Best vibes,
Blazing Satva.

 

[RAM]

I have never had the pleasure of using spice during an LSD trip, however I have a feeling it would be very tech-y feeling and electric.

I did smoke it at the peak of a shrooms trip, and it was amazing. Much more of the ancient sand brick feeling rather than electronics. I find that DMT really returns you to baseline after an intense, prolonged experience, so if you want to do other stuff during the trip it is advisable to get that all done first then smoke as your peak is coming to an end.

Comedown could add in some cool effects but I think it would quash the trip immediately after instead of guide you down a bit quickly. The tail end of the peak will give you, in my honest opinion, the best result.

 

[Purges]

I have only done this combo once, with Changa. It was very profound, as you might expect, but was also very entertaining and absolutely hilarious in parts. I would jump at the chance to do it again, but I have virtually 0 access to LSD.

Experimented with a couple of small/med doses to test the water maybe 4-5hrs in, so plateauish stages. Great synergy. Harmalas certainly added potentiation for both molecules. Did get some dark feelings and imagery at one point, but that was obliterated by looney tune fun land on redosing to breakthrough level.

I think members like Pandora,Global and Hyperspace Fool are very familiar with this combo.

 

[Global]

I think members like Pandora,Global and Hyperspace Fool are very familiar with this combo.

Yes, I am quite familiar with this combo. For me, the most anticipated part of any LSD experience is when I get to smoke DMT. There are a number of factors that seem to go into making this combo ideal.

First of all, LSD is not the most physically comfortable psychedelic for me. I will tend to get back pain, and there is a ceaseless alternation between physically feeling like I need to be moving around doing things, followed by complete exhaustion, and cycling so on. When I smoke the DMT, those physical un-pleasantries dissipate instantaneously leaving me in a very comfortable physical state. It is a nice respite.

The situation becomes instantly more colorful. There is a kind of anxiety that I do not find to be present in this scenario. Because I'm already in the tripping state, hitting the GVG is that much easier. It's as if no matter how far out the DMT sends you, it's all as natural as can be. There is a kind of absence of fear. I have heard of others here having a bad experience with the combo, but I personally have not.

I find the following adjectives to be the most fitting of the combo: celestial, heavenly, angelic, magical. I know that others don't necessarily agree with me on this, but I think the best time to use it is both on the peak as well as the comedown. When I do it on the peak, it's no holds barred. I like to do it on the comedown as well, as it seems to elongate the LSD.

Finally I should note that I mentioned above how the DMT can alleviate some of the physical discomforts...well like clockwork, after around 5-10 minutes as the DMT wears off, and the situation becomes less colorful, and it's like I can feel the LSD creeping back in, as the back pain resumes and the cyclical restlessness ensues.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

I have not tried smoking while on LSD - it's pretty hard to find around here.

I have smoked on mescaline, and that was a good choice. It didn't seem to interrupt the peak. If anything, it enhanced the mescaline trip. If, by some miracle, I do find some LSD, I think I'll take a few puffs during and towards the end and see what happens.

 

[Litwin]

Well I had smoked DMT on LSD as well on Shrooms. So I think I can share my experience. To tell you the truth I preferred shrooms. For me LSD has too much body load and it last too long. Shrooms feel like more in sync with nature. After LSD I had pretty strong visuals and strong connection so to speak but with shrooms it was more profound. But I wouldn't recommend this combination for somebody that is starting with DMT. It can be too much. Wish you good magical trip!

 

[DeeMenTalist]

Thanks everyone for replies.
Actually i`ve smoked dmt on lucy. It was around one year ago, but it was very little dose, maybe in 50ug range(i didn`t store that blotter in right conditions) so i barely felt it. After 2 or 3 hours i decided to smoalk some spice. I was a bit scary and weighted little amount of dmt for sub breakthrough experience. I loaded my pipe and made one looong hit. It was absolutely amazing! I felt like a piece of butter melting in warm milk. And it was like in a slow motion and breathtaking to see how reality and my body very slowly melting in front of my eyes. :shock:
Regarding dmt and shrooms... I heard earlier this is great combination too. I tried shrooms only once(northern semilanceata) and find it somewhat similar to dmt(no wonder as these two has similar structure). No doubt i`ll definitely try this combo.
ps By the way i`m not a newbie when it comes to dmt. I know it very good but still can`t stop to amaze such a power it has.:thumb_up:

 

[Litwin]

By the way i`m not a newbie when it comes to dmt. I know it very good but still can`t stop to amaze such a power it has.:thumb_up:

 

[Litwin]

Nobody can...

 

[DeeMenTalist]

Nobody can...

I agree with that and after every next experience i`m starting to think that i`m only at the beginning of this route. Didn`t mean to sound egocentric or something like that... What i know for sure is i don`t know what is waiting for me next time on the other side.

 

[livinglife]

Just want to put in my experience with this combination. I attended a big psychedelic festival this summer and dropped some sunshine, 1 hit. I was running around in pure joy loving everything around me and then i suddenly stumbled over some changa, the LSD was at the peak at this point and i thought "why not" . I smoked a lot from a joint and everything got indescribable. Rolling in the grass laughing my ass off trying to understand all the inputs that happened so fast. The psytrance beat suddenly sounded like a big drum with to much reverb and everything in my vision turned to liquid. "SO THIS IS CHANGA " I repeated many times. I kept bursting into wild laughter while the skies turned into squares and my friend looked massively warped. When i came down the LSD has some how faded, well at least lost some of the effects. Still thinking about this moment.."WTF happened". The next day I smoked it from a pipe, but that's another story :roll:

Huge respect

 

[locojuiceman]

Ohhhh Boyyyy you had better PREPARE Ha ha haa! I smoked DMT on top of a Mushroom trip and My 'Teddy Bear' across the room turned it's head, looked at me and waved, then a 'Being' walked through the door and into my kitchen looking at me the whole time, then it tried to talk me into going with it. It was 'telepathing' something into My head like " Come on, what are you waiting for, it can be like this FOREVER "
I was like " It CAN? But HOW? " and My Mind was scrambling as to HOW it could "Be Like This Forever' when I then looked up and everything was back to normal..well, I mean 'Tripping On Shrooms' normal !
I imagine on REAL LSD it would be..well ..Unexplainably Supertastic !!

 

[Guyomech]

I've so far had nothing but positive experiences with this combo. It's true that there is far less preflight anxiety because, as Global mentioned, you are already somewhat in flight. I find it possible to hit the pipe 3-4 times during the night, something that normally might be too intense of an evening for me. I've tried it during, right after and hours after the peak. All three are good situations, although toward the end of a long acid trip you may be too tired to find the gumption.

IME it is not necessarily different in character from a normal DMT experience, although it is stronger and you arrive at the peak faster, with fewer lower levels to ascend through. There are definitely differences of character between LSD and DMT, and I've found that the LSD-ness fades into the background and the DMT-ness takes over. After comedown from the spice I think recall is a little clearer because you are still in an elevated state, allowing more of a window for actively reflecting on the experience before it fades like a distant dream.

 

[Global]

although it is stronger and you arrive at the peak faster, with fewer lower levels to ascend through. There are definitely differences of character between LSD and DMT, and I've found that the LSD-ness fades into the background and the DMT-ness takes over.

That's a good way of putting it. I never quite thought of it like that, but it seems rather accurate.