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Making a Changa blend for the first time

Madhattress

Madhattress

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Hello fellow nexus friends 🧡

So after many extractions of Dmt and Mescaline I now want to venture into making some real Changa not just a leaf blend. I have done some reading and researching but with so many different blends I would like to know what is a fool proof blend for a begginer to start with?

I always want to strive to make the best possible end product so how ever complex the recipe is does not matter. Just need some advise from an experienced changa blender on what your favorite mix is to make. I want to do a 1:1 ratio of spice to leaf blend, or what is a good ratio if you advise otherwise? I want the blend to be decently strong in effects and long lasting.


Thanks in advance 🧡
 
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I actually did find a very well written and informative thread which I was busy reading through now written by @olympus mon in 2013..... The Art of Changa, a guide to making the perfect blends.

I have some Caapi vine I'm going to extract the freebase alks out first(anything I can extract I will 🤣) and then I'm just currently deciding on which herbs/plants I want to use as my leaf base 🙂

Having the most fun researching something new and to do some new extractions to add to my collection of knowledge🥳
 
Transform said:
Yes, that's a great one! Mullein and blue lotus seem to be two of the commonest go-to herbs for making a changa base. They'd go in my blend, should I ever get around to making it 🐢⚡
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Yeah that's what I gathered as well, will definitely use those.... I have been thinking about doing a mix including marshmallow leaf as well but havnt really seen too much of it mentioned. It seems like it would good one to add to the blend because of how smooth it is and how it is soothing to the lungs, as well as good flavor.
 
There's a small marshmallow tree I've planted in my garden where I'm hoping, one day, it will be big enough to sacrifice a few leaves. Wouldn't need to be so very much for a bit of changa either, so thanks for reminding me! Lemon balm might be an interesting one too. I also have a ton of pineapple sage (S. elegans) which makes great tea and I'd love to explore in some other blends. It's flowering abundantly at the moment, so I really ought to harvest a bit of that as well!
 
Ohhh lovely, would be a good homegrown batch all around 😁 marshmallow leaf,blue lotus and Mullein sounds like a wonderful blend to me 😀

Yeah I have seen lemon balm added. Wonder if it also has a calming effect like when ingested as tea... think I saw mentioned it is a very smooth smoke as well... I think you definitely ought to harvest and make a little home blend there straight from the garden 🤩
 
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Mullein's a biennial, I never got around to replanting any after it failed to self-seed :unsure: Now you got me planning a visit to the garden centre!

I'm thinking raspberry leaf may also be worth a try, but it's a good couple of months before my plants start waking up.

As a bit of an aside, I once roasted a large, mature stinging nettle leaf on a hot metal plate, and the vapours seemed... interesting.

I also wonder what using something like Lippia dulcis/Phyla scaberrima might add to the mix.
 
Maybe you saw this thread too:

Changa Musings

While meditating this evening (after playing my role-playing game over Zoom with some buddies and preppin mushroom tubs before loading them with spawn and substrate, and scraping some lovely deems), I had a few changa ideas that I thought I'd share with you all. The thought process sorta began...
forum.dmt-nexus.me forum.dmt-nexus.me
 
I'm planning on making changa soon too and the herbs I chose are blue lotus and baybean leaf, I never used them before but I like how they smoke and taste. previously I only used mint and it works well. regarding the harmala freebase, it doesn't dissolve well in alcohol, so I like to add it at the end just before the mixture fully dries and like this it's all nicely coated and dry to the touch. the 1:1 ratio is best if you want to make a strong changa but a lower DMT ratio is also good if you intend to have extended sessions especially if combined with oral harmalas or other psychedelics.
Good luck!
 
CHANGA!!!

One of the first blends I made (may have been the very first), and also my current favorite is 500mg mullein, 250mg passionflower, 250mg, blue lotus, 300mg harmalas (it's really nice if you use harmine only), and 1g of DMT.

I like to put all of it in a small jar, and then pour plenty of grain alcohol (Everclear) in order to fully dissolve both the DMT and the harmalas (harmalas are bit harder to dissolve, and with that in mind, they also vaporize at higher temperature than DMT). If will stir the jar, check the bottom, and then do it again if there are still some harmalas that haven't dissolved. I then allow the blend to sit in the grain alcohol for at least a day, occasionally stirring. Next, I take the lid off the jar and let slowly evap before using a fan to evap. I do this for about a day. Once this step is over and it's seems dry, I let it sit out with the lid of for a little while longer in order to make sure it's fully dry (if there's any alcohol still in it then the bowl will pop and crack and maybe catch fire). I prefer to steep my blends rather than pour over as I find that this aids in a more even distribution of harmalas and DMT across all of the herbs in the blend. You may notice some amount of harmalas and DMT stuck to the side of the jar. I haven't found that this effects the potency of the blend much which makes me feel that the amount left on the side of the jar is negligible. It also gives me a reason to re-use the same jar for future blends.

If you are concerned about actives in the blend, simply use a spoon during the evap process, about every couple of hours, to scrape any actives down the side of the inside of the jar into the blend before all of the alcohol has evaporated. You can also just scrape the jar after the blend is fully dry.

I was going to share the Changa Musings thread, but @Transform beat me to it.

So here's the wiki page.

Changa - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me wiki.dmt-nexus.me

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Transform said:
Mullein's a biennial, I never got around to replanting any after it failed to self-seed :unsure: Now you got me planning a visit to the garden centre!

I'm thinking raspberry leaf may also be worth a try, but it's a good couple of months before my plants start waking up.

As a bit of an aside, I once roasted a large, mature stinging nettle leaf on a hot metal plate, and the vapours seemed... interesting.

I also wonder what using something like Lippia dulcis/Phyla scaberrima might add to the mix.
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You are inspiring me to visit the garden center as well, although I always spend wayyyy too much when I go🤣 im unstoppable 😅 I already have a jungle of plants outside and so so many big cacti 😝 but with my south african climate I could probably grow some big pots of cool herbs.

Mmmm, those sounds interesting. I see smoking stinging nettle could be good for the respiratory track although havnt done enough research. I think at this point and time I'm going to aim for a soothing smoke with good flavors. I also want my chunga to look interesting and nice to the eye.
 
Transform said:
Maybe you saw this thread too:

Changa Musings

While meditating this evening (after playing my role-playing game over Zoom with some buddies and preppin mushroom tubs before loading them with spawn and substrate, and scraping some lovely deems), I had a few changa ideas that I thought I'd share with you all. The thought process sorta began...
forum.dmt-nexus.me forum.dmt-nexus.me
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Thank you! I appreciate it 🌸🌸
 
Sakkadelic said:
I'm planning on making changa soon too and the herbs I chose are blue lotus and baybean leaf, I never used them before but I like how they smoke and taste. previously I only used mint and it works well. regarding the harmala freebase, it doesn't dissolve well in alcohol, so I like to add it at the end just before the mixture fully dries and like this it's all nicely coated and dry to the touch. the 1:1 ratio is best if you want to make a strong changa but a lower DMT ratio is also good if you intend to have extended sessions especially if combined with oral harmalas or other psychedelics.
Good luck!
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Thanks ao much for the information. I appreciate all the tips! Yeah I'm going to experiment with a few different leaf blends and see what I like.

So a good standard would be 1:1:1? Harmalas,Dmt freebase, leaf blend?
 
Voidmatrix said:
CHANGA!!!

One of the first blends I made (may have been the very first), and also my current favorite is 500mg mullein, 250mg passionflower, 250mg, blue lotus, 300mg harmalas (it's really nice if you use harmine only), and 1g of DMT.

I like to put all of it in a small jar, and then pour plenty of grain alcohol (Everclear) in order to fully dissolve both the DMT and the harmalas (harmalas are bit harder to dissolve, and with that in mind, they also vaporize at higher temperature than DMT). If will stir the jar, check the bottom, and then do it again if there are still some harmalas that haven't dissolved. I then allow the blend to sit in the grain alcohol for at least a day, occasionally stirring. Next, I take the lid off the jar and let slowly evap before using a fan to evap. I do this for about a day. Once this step is over and it's seems dry, I let it sit out with the lid of for a little while longer in order to make sure it's fully dry (if there's any alcohol still in it then the bowl will pop and crack and maybe catch fire). I prefer to steep my blends rather than pour over as I find that this aids in a more even distribution of harmalas and DMT across all of the herbs in the blend. You may notice some amount of harmalas and DMT stuck to the side of the jar. I haven't found that this effects the potency of the blend much which makes me feel that the amount left on the side of the jar is negligible. It also gives me a reason to re-use the same jar for future blends.

If you are concerned about actives in the blend, simply use a spoon during the evap process, about every couple of hours, to scrape any actives down the side of the inside of the jar into the blend before all of the alcohol has evaporated. You can also just scrape the jar after the blend is fully dry.

I was going to share the Changa Musings thread, but @Transform beat me to it.

So here's the wiki page.

Changa - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me wiki.dmt-nexus.me

One love
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Hey there!

Ah amazing! Thank you so much for all the insights and tips. This is very helpful to me. So I don't seem to have that brand of (everclear) here in south africa so I will have to search for something similar that could do the trick. Strange that grain alcohol seems to dissolve the harmalas better than IPA 😅

What is your experience with using acetone?

Yes, I like the idea of steeping the leaf blend for even distribution. I want every hit to be the same.

Thanks again for the information. I will definitely be using your advise 🌸
 
Prolly not a good answer, but what I do.
First, I pre-dose Harmalas. I like smoking a 4x enhanced Caapi leaf mixture.
As to the DMT containing herb, I use either Passionflower or used mint leaves (mint leaves after tea is made from them, the idea is to prepare them to absorb a lot).
I put a random amount of DMT on that base by sprinkling some herb into the final stages of a fourth or fifth pull. At that stage I'm evaporating instead of freeze precipitating and I'm starting to get goo. This gives a somewhat weak Changa generally, although I sometimes hit the mark. From there, I add the nice white (or light yellow) freeze precipitated DMT until I have what I want.

Lately, I've been starting with the goo from ACRB on some herb. Gives a Changa way too high in NMT, but adding the more pure DMT gives a nice blend. I like a little NMT in there.

Sorry for the non-recipe answer, but that's what I do.
 
Voidmatrix said:
harmalas (it's really nice if you use harmine only)
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@Madhattress - I haven't scrolled back to check yet, but were you planning to do pH-mediated harmala separation? We've plenty of info about that on the forum as well. Here's one with a whole lot of detail:

Tracking Harmala-Separation & THH purification with NMR

I wanted to make some more THH and needed a new load of Harmalas. I was using different sources on about at which pH I need to stop freebasing ... my old protocol (retrieved from somewhere here) told to stop at pH 7. That is just neutral and therefore I was wondering if indeed you can already...
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Some additional useful results come up here:
Search: harmine separation
 
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