MDMA alternatives (for entheogenic group celebration)

[soulfood]

I always say RIMA's are the security guard that takes a nap. MDMA is the security guard who says "fuck you! I quit!" Then shouts from the roof tops telling everyone it's an open party.

 

[soulman]

At first he feels the usual uncomfortable body load, but after a while this beautiful blissful (seretonin like) feeling starts to creep through his body. It is defo on of his faves at the minute, and has wondered why this happenes as the two seperate componenets do not have this effect if taken seperatley.
He tried the same thing with 30mg of sublingul THH and it just didnt feel as loving as the caapi tea!

Caapi is essentially a mix of THH and harmine. These two alkaloids amplify and alter each other's effects to a great degree when taken together, producing effects neither one is capable of on their own.

Yes but even when drinking caapi alone, one doesnt get this blissful feeling. And when smoking dmt alone, one does not get this blissful feeling either. Its only when swim dinks the tea then smokes the dmt that this awesomeness occurs, so there has got to be some kind of reaction between the two which produces these effects.

 

[69ron]

Yes but even when drinking caapi alone, one doesnt get this blissful feeling. And when smoking dmt alone, one does not get this blissful feeling either. Its only when swim dinks the tea then smokes the dmt that this awesomeness occurs, so there has got to be some kind of reaction between the two which produces these effects.

Yes, for sure.

 

[jamie]

yeah I agree, I dont even smoke DMT at all anymore ever without cappi extract..it's just not the same.

 

[SKA]

SWIM has experienced that high doses of the known entheogens, like mushrooms, mescaline, acid, DMT/ayahuasca/Changa and Yopo aren't very social occasions as each is individually cast into a very personal experience.

However low doses of acid seem to produce quite an empathic, socially open state of being. SWIM has smoked high doses of DMT and found himself detatched from the outside world and other people. However when he layed down on a large matrass with 5 people and took humble doses of DMT repeatedly, sharing humble tokes with the other 5 people, this made for a very social experience.

Where people were still very much in this world and able to communicate the feelings and visions DMT gave to eachother.

So a spiritually deep, yet social ceremony could very well be done using a combination of low doses of vaporised DMT, Mescaline, Psilocybin and acid.
SWIM imagines a forrest, lakeside or grassy hills in summertime(or a hot climate) to be the best imaginable scene for such an event. Even better would be a farmhouse or cabin out in nature.

If SWIY and friends would keep a ceremony in a temple-like room or outside in nature passing around a DMT pipe, take "allmost but just not a fullblown trip" worth of acid, while drinking a brew with low doses of Peyote/San Pedro and Psilocybin Mushrooms...The ultimate Entheogenic, Social trance could very well be achieved.

DMT can be extracted by SWIYself; garanteeing purity and safety. San Pedro and Peyote Cacti can also be cultivated and extracted by SWIYself; yet again garanteeing purity and safety. The same can be said for Psilocybin Mushrooms.