Mexican mimosa and brazil mimosa differences?

[zombicyckel]

Hi is there anybody who know if there are differences between them?

Is the dmt % the same? I know that it has to do with age, climate ect. But I would love if somebody has tested both in aya and could tell if you experienced any differences. Any extra information is welcomed

 

[۩]

I doubt that real mimosa hostilis root bark will differ that much between the two places at all.

For aya, start with 4-5g, and work your way up if needed.

 

[zombicyckel]

I doubt that real mimosa hostilis root bark will differ that much between the two places at all.

For aya, start with 4-5g, and work your way up if needed.

Thats what I wanted to hear, and thanks for reply. And I agree slowly moving upwards. Seen reports of first timers taking like 15 grams mimosa, thats like 150 mg of dmt if my math is right. Way to much for first time.

 

[nen888]

..i've heard one is sometimes much higher yielding..can't remember which..also have heard that Mimosa ophthalmocentra (jurema-of-imbira) from Brazil is sometimes mistaken for and sold has M. hostilis..it has 3% alkaloids in the root bark..
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[zombicyckel]

..i've heard one is sometimes much higher yielding..can't remember which..also have heard that Mimosa ophthalmocentra (jurema-of-imbira) from Brazil is sometimes mistaken for and sold has M. hostilis..it has 3% alkaloids in the root bark..
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Is that not possible with the mexican? Like do they only have one strain of the mimosa

Its from a trusted source, dont believe they would be fooled. Would not be in their customers intrest I imagine. But concerning anyway, you never know. Ive heard that too, that the bazil contains more. But is it a fact, I have no idea

 

[tele]

Some people claim mexican is weaker(less yielding). I ordered once mexican from a vendor (they said it was stronger than brazilian), and it yielded only about 0.5%, lowest ever.

 

[zombicyckel]

Some people claim mexican is weaker(less yielding). I ordered once mexican from a vendor (they said it was stronger than brazilian), and it yielded only about 0.5%, lowest ever.

Thanks for you told me!! My gnome cat would otherwise bought mexican, the gnome will go with the brazilian. They told me the same thing

Edit: Also, what about their brazilian mimosa, have you tried that? And was there 1 % dmt as it should be? Anyone is welcomed to answer this one

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

I doubt that real mimosa hostilis root bark will differ that much between the two places at all.

Some of the Brazil stuff doesn't appear to be hostilis at all, flower color, seed form etc are all inconsistent. It works great, no doubt, but at least one plantation sells jurema that is not MHRB but is some other closely related species. There is some speculation about what species it is. I think Mimosa diplotricha might be the identity, but that is my own opinion, others say it is Mimosa ophthalmocentra... but i am not convinced.

Anyway the idea of consistency in plants is problematic. When studies of a single stand of plants examine many of them a range is almost always found in terms of chemistry. With cactus different specimens of a single clone can vary to an amazing degree. This type of thing is not uncommon and should be expected for Mimosa. One tree might be far weaker or stronger than another and averages will vary.

I've heard good things about both the Mexico and Brazil material.

 

[tele]

Some people claim mexican is weaker(less yielding). I ordered once mexican from maya etnobotanicals(they said it was stronger than brazilian), and it yielded only about 0.5%, lowest ever.

Thanks for you told me!! My gnome cat would otherwise bought mexican, the gnome will go with the brazilian. They told me the same thing

Edit: Also, what about their brazilian mimosa, have you tried that? And was there 1 % dmt as it should be? Anyone is welcomed to answer this one

Gnomes should have enough DMT in their bodies already:lol:

Brazilian often has 1% but this depends also on harvest time and other factors.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Gnomes should have enough DMT in their bodies already:lol:

yea, but they are next to impossible to extract : /

 

[zombicyckel]

Gnomes should have enough DMT in their bodies already:lol:

Brazilian often has 1% but this depends also on harvest time and other factors. Mhrb-shop.nl has the best adenium bark for good prices, check it out.

Haha they need more Good store! good prices and all, thanks for the tip

Some of the Brazil stuff doesn't appear to be hostilis at all, flower color, seed form etc are all inconsistent. It works great, no doubt, but at least one plantation sells jurema that is not MHRB but is some other closely related species. There is some speculation about what species it is. I think Mimosa diplotricha might be the identity, but that is my own opinion, others say it is Mimosa ophthalmocentra... but i am not convinced.

Anyway the idea of consistency in plants is problematic. When studies of a single stand of plants examine many of them a range is almost always found in terms of chemistry. With cactus different specimens of a single clone can vary to an amazing degree. This type of thing is not uncommon and should be expected for Mimosa. One tree might be far weaker or stronger than another and averages will vary.

I've heard good things about both the Mexico and Brazil material.

Thanks for clearing up a few things

 

[Hupecat]

Some people claim mexican is weaker(less yielding). I ordered once mexican from maya etnobotanicals(they said it was stronger than brazilian), and it yielded only about 0.5%, lowest ever.

well SWIM had a half and half delivery 250 gr powdered Brazilianan usual.. always satisfied, and 250 gr of Mexican. i gae Naphtha Pulls up after 3 Pulls ielded 38 mg from the 250 gr…just to ompsre ..the razilia gae me sout 4 gr lean hrstals,, i will never eer use meaxican bark again…… waste of everything in my case..

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Mexican vs. Brazilian yield comparison

 

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I've only ever extracted from Brazilian powder in the past and I usually pulled around 1%. I've got some whole mexican bark now that I will be extracting in the near future, I will make sure to post my yields in the thread Snozz linked too.