MHRB, Caapi Alkaloids and Jello

[CheechWizard]

A friend and I are wanting to experience pharma/aya. I have experienced vaporized spice 7 times, both of us are very experienced with mushrooms. We are hoping to do this next week on a date of significance.

We have access to 7 grams of shredded HMRB, 200 mg of harmine freebase and 200 mg harmaline freebase.

I have on order 2 drams of banisteriopsis caapi glycerite tincture, however I noticed after ordering there is a 5 to 10 day additional delivery time on the product, I think it will not arrive on time and no response from said vender who I have found reputable in the past.

I had some concerns using MHRB in the mix as I have read the tannin levels can produce nausea, purging (hoping to avoid this) and undesirable effects.

I was researching shooms combined with the alkaloids when I found this interesting DMT Jello Shooter TEK on Shroomery.org.

The TEK uses egg whites to remove a large amount of the tannins and additional tannins with jello. The jello mixture is then made into tasty shooters.

Haveing no experience with this I am wondering:

Will 7 grams of bark will be enough for 2 people?

DMT Jello Shots! - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

WOOOO!! sorry meant to post this too A tek as promised Ingredients/Supplies -Syrian Rue (3 grams) -Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark (6-10 grams) - water (duh) -a pot to cook it in - unflavored gelatin

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Would 100 grams of haramine with 5 grams of harmaline per person ingested 20 minutes prior to ingesting the shooters be enough to produce the desired MAOI effect?

Would it be better to take 100 grams of each? How will the additional harmaline effect the experience?

We also have access to 5 grams of mushrooms and could consume them to the alkaloids instead of MHRB if needed.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[endlessness]

you mean 100 MILIgrams harmine and 5 (or 50?) miligrams harmaline for each, I guess... If its 5mg harmaline, might be too little.. A dosage of pure harmine would be more around 200mg, and of pure harmaline around 100mg, and of both together it should be around 150mg.. So if its 100mg harmine + 50mg harmaline, then it should be enough.

The harmaline is a bit more sedating than harmine, and some people dont like it as much, while I personally do like it and find it interesting. In any case if you didnt have extensive experience with both of them I dont know if you'll really feel anything specially different, the harmalas will provide a certain light-headedness and a few light effects apart from MAO inhibition, but their effects shouldnt be so strong to really notice too much at this dosage, imo.

7g mimosa might be just enough, but it might also be a bit weak, it will really depend on you both and your metabolism and so on, its hard to predict. For me a dosage of mimosa might be more around 6g mimosa just for myself, so those 3.5g would not be too much, but I definitely know that there are other people for whom this would be enough. So experience will tell you.

I would be careful mixing the mushrooms with MAOI, a lot of people seem to have problems with that combination. I would say take the harmalas and right after take the mimosa, and if you dont feel anything after an hour and a half of consuming both, then maybe take 1g mushrooms max. Do you have any extracted spice? Because if after all of this and waiting a couple of hours, you both still not having a strong enough experience, you can vap some spice. Always better being prudent and testing the waters first with lower dosages in general, you can always take a stronger dosage of everything some other session, if this one doesnt turn out so good.

The mimosa egg white cleaning does work to some extent, but dont expect mimosa to be tasting good afterwards, it still tastes very bad If you do the egg white thing, remember to do it BEFORE reducing the brew to a manageable amount, otherwise you might lose some actives.

good luck!

 

[CheechWizard]

Hey, thanks for the reply and all the info. I will definitely go with 100 mg harmine and 50 grams harmaline.

I was able to acquire a bit more MHRB. I now have around 50 grams. Having never done this we would rather error on the side of caution for the 1st time. What would be a good starting dose? Should we stick with 3.5 grams MHRB each or go up in dosage?