my introduction

[iownme]

im a 55 yo ex brit living near atlanta GA, been here 25 years. not going back.

did a fair bit of microdots, ecstasy, acid, and shrooms in the 90's, was never into powders or injectables.

spent the next 30 yrs smoking good quality 420.

heard about salvia 20 years back, i was curious but not enough to try it.

then i came across ayawascha and was very interested in finding a place to try it.

i eventually decided against it as at this stage in life a journey lasting multiple hours is not on my horizon.

i came across dmt maybe 5 or so years ago and was very curious...but not enough to turn myself into a chemist.

i watched as many videos as i could on the subject then a couple of years ago i made the decision that i need to try it, need, not want.

every avenue i tried to make it happen failed, then after the last failure i was inspired to go back to the chris cantelmo video on how to make it.

over the course of a week i gathered all the items i needed and here we are today.

im a decent guy with small circle of good honest friends, most of whom do not use any stimulants.

im here looking to expand my knowledge, im not money hungry and i have no wish to "share" info outside of this community.

i read the rules thread and the thread on why not to sell and im in total agreement.

 

[blig-blug]

Welcome to the Nexus!
I think you'll be able to learn a lot here, I myself understand much more chemistry than when I joined (it's still not a lot, but work in progress).
If you're curious about Ayahuasca, once you finish your current extraction you could try vaporhuasca. It consist on vaporizing DMT after having taken some form of harmalas, be it a sublingual extraction, a cup of caapi, or any other option. The experience is closer to Ayahuasca, but shorter in duration.
See you around here!

 

[Pandora]

iownme,

Welcome to the Nexus brother! There are more and more of us in the 50+ age range joining these days.

I hope your extraction goes well but if it is not, I would draw your attention to the Wiki link above. You can find DMT extraction TEK's (recipes) there that are tried and true. Personally I'm a fan of Noman's DMT for the Masses, because it's simple, it's the first one that worked for me and it continues to deliver 16 years later, . I have also heard great things (though never tried it) about Cyb's TEK.

I do hope you will keep us informed as to your progress. You are a great age to try DMT and I look forward to reading about your experiences.

I for one am very glad you signed up.

 

[iownme]

thanks for the welcomes.
i successfully extracted yesterday on my first attempt, albeit with help from this forum. without the forum it would not have been a success.
i made a post asking some questions which started off a little rough but we got past that and the help was forthcoming, the link is here
very thick aqueous solution
i have no idea if i will be a one time trier or if i'll be still here in 20 years.
either way, im happy to have found you all as we all for sure have something major in common with eachother.
i will certainly document here my experiences!

 

[iownme]

iownme,

Welcome to the Nexus brother! There are more and more of us in the 50+ age range joining these days.

I hope your extraction goes well but if it is not, I would draw your attention to the Wiki link above. You can find DMT extraction TEK's (recipes) there that are tried and true. Personally I'm a fan of Noman's DMT for the Masses, because it's simple, it's the first one that worked for me and it continues to deliver 16 years later, . I have also heard great things (though never tried it) about Cyb's TEK.

I do hope you will keep us informed as to your progress. You are a great age to try DMT and I look forward to reading about your experiences.

I for one am very glad you signed up.

im a little overwhelmed learning there are so many teks, once i get this first mission completed i'll have a better idea which direction to go.
i followed the chris cantelmo video from youtube for my first venture and it went well

 

[fink]

Welcome friend. Might I suggest making some enhanced leaf? As a smoker already, you'll have no trouble with a pipe or a bong. The benefits of a more reliable smoking method than vaping freebase are a huge help in relaxing into the experience for me

 

[iownme]

do you mean i can mix it with green herb?...
if so im all ears about that!

 

[Pandora]

Generally enhanced leaf does not involve marijuana or salvia, BUT for some users those are indeed a hard yes.

What it is all about is adding harmalas (if desired) and tasty or helpful herbs like lavendar, blue lotus, mullein, passionflower, pepperment, . . . so many options.

What one does is they dissolve 1 gram of freebase DMT into warmed solvent, then drop 1 gram of ground herbs into that and stir. Then dry slowly. Usually what I do is just dump the stirred contents into an evaporation (Pyrex) tray. Make sure ALL solvent is evaporated before considering use. When things start to dry, chop and spread with a razor and dry more and more. Better too dry than too wet.

Then what you do is you smoke this enhanced herb blend understanding that it is 50% as strong as straight up DMT. So if you load 60 mgs of enhanced leaf (aka changa) into your pipe and smoke/vape it up, you should be delivering 30 mgs of DMT straight to your head.

I use a glass vaporgenie which ensures perfect vaporization. This means when I hit freebase DMT there is ZERO taste. But when I hit a changa bowl it is very tasty - it tastes like the herbal mix.

Highly recommended.

 

[iownme]

i like the sound of that, is naptha a solvent i can use, sounds like it could be a way of doing it more often (which is good)
i just looked up vaporgenie, why are they so expensive?

 

[iownme]

helpful herbs like lavendar

i just purchased an ounce of organic lavender flowers.
might you elaborate on how the different choices of flowers are different when used in this fashion?
is it a taste or an effect?
and what are harmalas and what is the benefit of adding it?

 

[Pandora]

The glass vaporgenie is expensive and needs to be handled carefully. That borosilicate glass withstands high torch heat and that ceramic plug ensures perfect vaporization. Wow I burned a LOT of DMT before I invested in my GVG. That is not a good or healthy smell. Imagine taking a torch to super cheap lawn furniture. Yep, that's what BURNED DMT smells and can taste like. Yuck.

Well I'm not an expert but lavendar just tastes/smells good. Passionflower has small amounts of harmalas. Peppermint tastes good and has an illusion of cooling. Mullein opens up the lungs and allows better absorption. And I just like the way blue lotus looks, .


Here is a small lecture:

When one smokes DMT or eats DMT withOUT a harmala the DMT effect lasts a very short while (5-10 mins smoked) or does not work at all (oral). This is because our bodies are full of a substance called Monoamine Oxidase. Imagine Monoamine Oxidase as a ninja just waiting for a DMT molecule to cross it's path. BAM, no more DMT molecule or no way for it to get us off.

Given that the world is full of plants and animals and parts that contain DMT I'm thinking this was evolutionary advantage. Really hard to defend against a bear or run from a lion when reality is "ripping at the seams."

Harmalas are substances like Harmaline, Harmine and Tetrahydroharmamine. These substances can be extracted from plants like syrian rue. There are extraction TEKs (pathways) in the Wiki link above.

So, a DMT user might want to stay in hyperspace a bit longer on the clock or might want to try an oral (hours instead of minutes long) experience. . . The way to make this happen is to INHIBIT Monoamine Oxidase. In fact we call these substances MAOI's (monoamine oxidase inhibitors). Here we call the plant extracted ones harmalas.

So, if you load up with harmalas as you smoke DMT or before you smoke DMT it's like getting rid of those ninjas standing guard and the DMT can stay in your system and yield effects for much longer on the consensual reality clock.

To go a bit deeper, these plant extracted harmalas are actually called MAOI-A's which means they are fully reversable in your body within a couple hours - in other words you metabolize them and the ninjas are back on guard. There are PRESCRIPTION MAOI-A's and B's The B's take a LONG time to wear off and come with dietary prohibitions. Best to go with the reversable, plant extracted MAOI's . . .. also known as harmalas, . . . .

I hope this is clear and not too detailed. I believe in sharing knowledge and that information actively fights to be free. All questions are good and deserve an attentive answer.

Feel free to drop into the chat.

 

[iownme]

that was a brilliant explanation and i now understand, in fact it covered other questions i had so thanks!.
one of the things im attracted to in dmt is the short span.
that may change once i have tried it, i am still a virgin (here!)

i am pill free and wont take any so i would go the natural route if so inclined for that type of journey

so the vaporgenie gets rid of the taste? and could you elaborate on the "perfect vaporization" please.

i have a fancy expensive vape machine thingy which i tried for 420 but i didnt enjoy it, its a couple hundred dollars so it must be good lol, can i use that do you think?... the heat is controllable by the degree, am i allowed to upload a pic of it?

 

[Pandora]

Yeah I feel you. I own a small business and as a business woman who must work long days every day of the year, DMT is the ONLY trip that makes sense.

It used to be called the Businessman's Trip a few decades ago, .

For sure, the natural/plant route is the only thing that makes sense currently. To be blunt, the underground drug supply is horribly tainted and untrustworthy. There is a LOT of Fentanyl out there.

But the plants, . . . . for 10's of thousands of years humans have been working with the plants, and they seldom point us in the wrong direction.

 

[iownme]

agreed!
decades sure have changed some stuff!.

ive just been back on the vg website and read how they work.
the cheaper ones they have are better priced now i know how it will improve the experience and i do want it to be as enjoyable as possible, are there any other options you would recommend?

 

[Pandora]

Other versions of vaporgenie work well but you don't get the neat show of seeing that thick vapor travelling up the pipe.

e-mesh system is about as expensive (as vaporgenie) when you get everything dialled in. I could not get mine to work due to inability to focus vision sharply. But those who use them swear that they are one-hit-wonders. You can get the entire dose into your body quickly, which is ideal.

DMT sets up a rapid tolerance and after about 30-40 seconds of hitting, you are wasting time. This tolerance backs off in under an hour and one can go again.

There was a guy in chat who used the HAMR kit, which is even more spendy but apparently delivers devastating hits.

Other folks have sworn by Yocan Orbit. It's spendy and a pain in the rear (all of this is just one woman's opinion). Used correctly, it needs to be broken apart and deep cleaned after every trip.

 

[iownme]

thank you for your fountain of information!
i will research your suggestions.
i think 1 hit v 3 hits both have pros and cons.
if im chosen to continue using dmt them im happy to go spendy, thats the issue currently, i want the first time to be as good as po$$ible.
i'll check em all out and see what kinda deals i can find

 

[iownme]

tried to buy from the vg website but was asked to upload my id for age verification.
errrr....no thanks...lol
i emailed them.
from what i read its seems to fit my purpose the best, i went for the pricey bronze.
id break the glass one
i prefer the angle of the bronze than the cheaper straight versions....apparently enough to pay double

 

[Pandora]

Moving our discussion into a slightly different direction given what you wrote above . . . . so, . . . . how are your letting go/surrender skills? DMT really appreciates ADVANCED skills on this front. Fighting the oncoming trip, thinking something is wrong, whatever, does not help anything but as soon as the user can completely lets go, a rough ride can turn into Heaven really quickly.

Trust the molecule. It is super safe. It is endogenous in our bodies. It is all over in 10 minutes - that fast half life speaks loudly to how SAFE the molecule is.

Make your body comfortable. Then try to let it go.

A decent dose of DMT tries hard to separate us from our body sense. A hefty dose tends to just shotgun or cannon us users right out of body. The last thing you want happening as you are blasting around at Warp 5 and being shown amazing things is anxiety over what your body is doing. Forget it. Abandon it.

Everyone dies sometimes. DMT will make you feel like you are dying if you do it right, . But you are not. Even if you are not fully in touch with things like breathing, heartbeat, bladder retention of urine, TRUST your body. It knows what to do when you are not there. Though DMT is NOT like dreams, this is analagyzable to what happens when we fall asleep. We know our bodies will continue breathing, our hearts will beat, etc.

When you take the hits, try not to resist the trance... Make your smoking device safe then lie back, slightly propped up (we have had one user aspirate to death on a DMT/alcohol combo - let's not have another one), close your eyes (blindfolds are nice - I recommend the Mindfold which provides complete dark but allows the person to be in complete dark with open eyes. Very cool with DMT) and LET GO.

Your thoughts are going to change. Your mind will race. Just let it all go.

Once you land where you are going to land, try to pay attention. Try hard to remember.. It's not easy remembering a DMT trip but if one works the problem (I have advice on this also) it yields fantastic memories/reports..

Sometimes the entities ask me, "Why are you here?," telepathically. I reply, using my mind, "To surrender."
Sometimes they follow up, "Why are you REALLY here?" For me the answer comes naturally/quickly, "To learn."

This stuff really seems to MATTER in the DMT realms. It is hard to believe even a drug saturated mind could produce such visions.

I look forward to your reports.

 

[iownme]

tried to buy from the vg website but was asked to upload my id for age verification.

i read a review on the puffco pilot and checked it out.
i like the way it works very much so i ordered one. $152 in total with tx+shipping.
their website also had age verification but i was able to pass it just be entering my phone number and receiving a text with a code number.

it has 4 heat settings which the reviewer noted the lowest was the best
How We Smoked DMT – Our Experience & Recommendations

 

[iownme]

Moving our discussion into a slightly different direction given what you wrote above . . . . so, . . . . how are your letting go/surrender skills? DMT really appreciates ADVANCED skills on this front. Fighting the oncoming trip, thinking something is wrong, whatever, does not help anything but as soon as the user can completely lets go, a rough ride can turn into Heaven really quickly.

Trust the molecule. It is super safe. It is endogenous in our bodies. It is all over in 10 minutes - that fast half life speaks loudly to how SAFE the molecule is.

Make your body comfortable. Then try to let it go.

A decent dose of DMT tries hard to separate us from our body sense. A hefty dose tends to just shotgun or cannon us users right out of body. The last thing you want happening as you are blasting around at Warp 5 and being shown amazing things is anxiety over what your body is doing. Forget it. Abandon it.

Everyone dies sometimes. DMT will make you feel like you are dying if you do it right, . But you are not. Even if you are not fully in touch with things like breathing, heartbeat, bladder retention of urine, TRUST your body. It knows what to do when you are not there. Though DMT is NOT like dreams, this is analagyzable to what happens when we fall asleep. We know our bodies will continue breathing, our hearts will beat, etc.

When you take the hits, try not to resist the trance... Make your smoking device safe then lie back, slightly propped up (we have had one user aspirate to death on a DMT/alcohol combo - let's not have another one), close your eyes (blindfolds are nice - I recommend the Mindfold which provides complete dark but allows the person to be in complete dark with open eyes. Very cool with DMT) and LET GO.

Your thoughts are going to change. Your mind will race. Just let it all go.

Once you land where you are going to land, try to pay attention. Try hard to remember.. It's not easy remembering a DMT trip but if one works the problem (I have advice on this also) it yields fantastic memories/reports..

Sometimes the entities ask me, "Why are you here?," telepathically. I reply, using my mind, "To surrender."
Sometimes they follow up, "Why are you REALLY here?" For me the answer comes naturally/quickly, "To learn."

This stuff really seems to MATTER in the DMT realms. It is hard to believe even a drug saturated mind could produce such visions.

I look forward to your reports.

please bear in mind i type on a small fone with big fingers.

only on this forum have i ever typed this much!!....seriously!

i think my surrender skills would be better than average but who knows lol. i have watched a lot of trip reports so i kinda know what to maybe possibly expect

i have done lots of mental prepping including understanding this will likely be lifechanging.

i think i can let go easier than most.

time will soon tell

i have ordered the mindfold blindfold and i will be alcohol and 420 free before trying and flying

you mention advice on remembering, yes please, your way of explaining is excellent beyond measure and you answer questions i have before ask in every message

"why am i here"

also to learn but for many other things too, should i give them a list?...lol

i doubt i could even verbalize here in text but i imagine my subconscious can and thats what will be at play

from all i have read and seen (which is a lot, ive really done my homework on this one)

i think im the type of mindset the dmt realm wants to interact with

i am very happy to have come across you and others here, you are all making this first journey possible both practically and mentally.

i thank you all