firsttimefranky
Rising Star
Hello to all,
I've joined this forum in the hopes of getting some answers to my current predicament, which has caught me extremely unexpectedly as I consider myself a reasonably competent psychonaut, with around 7 years of experience with various substances.
Last week, on the 15th of May I took an oral dose of ground syrian rue (approx 4.5g) and freebase DMT (approx 250mg) both in gel capsules. Having done some reading on the forums I know these amounts are fairly high, however I have done larger oral doses of freebase in the past and very similarly sized syrian rue dosages as well.
The difference with this experience was that I had eaten only lightly the day before and the day of the experience, and the freebase was gelcapped and not parachuted as in the past. The experience itself was quite unpleasant, I dosed the rue about an hour before the DMT and felt the onset of effects about an hour later. It quickly became physically overwhelming, and I felt I had taken too much rue and was going to be sick, however I was able to contain the nausea (which now seems like a mistake) and rode the experience out over about 6-7 hours.
There was very little OEVs, quite a bit of CEVs, most of the experience was felt in the body and while parts were helpful and ecstatic the majority was muddled and unpleasant.
After the effects had subsided I drank a lot of rooibos tea, didn't consume any food and went to bed a few hours later after journalling my experience. The next day my stomach was a little upset which I attributed to lack of food and the rigors of the day before. I went about my day normally but after lying down to go to sleep at about 10:30pm that night I was struck by a buildup of energy in my chest which resulted in fairly intense tremors radiating up and down my body, like the energy was trapped in my body with no way to be released. This continued in waves for about an hour and then I drifted into a bizarre dreamlike state somewhat similar to a DMT experience but much less vivid. What I saw could be described as a rebuilding of the earlier energy and when I awoke an hour later I could feel the energy in my chest again, and commenced tremoring once again. I attempted to release the energy in a few ways (shaking it out, excreting it, breathing it out), all to no avail, after another hour or so the tremors subsided and I fell asleep around 3:30am.
Tremors are something I have long associated with the DMT experience, over the years I have been effected by similar tremors right before takeoff, which I just assumed were natural nerves.
It has now been 4 nights since my oral trip and these tremors have afflicted me each night. Usually I can fall asleep initially because I am very tired by this point, but I wake within an hour to the tremoring, then the fugue-like dreamstate for several hours and then eventually exhausted sleep. After 3 days of this terrible sleep pattern combined with work I broke down in tears (something that hasn't happened in many, many years). I had hoped this was perhaps what it was building too, and that with the release of tears I would be freed of the nighttime tremors but that night they continued as normal.
I am becoming quite anxious that I have affected something in my stomach/brain that is causing these effects and I am at a loss at how to remedy the situation. I have very few physical symptoms during the day, my stomach feels mildly upset in the mornings, and I have a slowly building sense of anxiety from the loss of sleep and worry that these effects might be permanent but nothing else.
If anyone has any information that could be helpful to me it would be greatly appreciated, as I am genuinely unsure as to why I am having this particular reaction.
Regards,
F
I've joined this forum in the hopes of getting some answers to my current predicament, which has caught me extremely unexpectedly as I consider myself a reasonably competent psychonaut, with around 7 years of experience with various substances.
Last week, on the 15th of May I took an oral dose of ground syrian rue (approx 4.5g) and freebase DMT (approx 250mg) both in gel capsules. Having done some reading on the forums I know these amounts are fairly high, however I have done larger oral doses of freebase in the past and very similarly sized syrian rue dosages as well.
The difference with this experience was that I had eaten only lightly the day before and the day of the experience, and the freebase was gelcapped and not parachuted as in the past. The experience itself was quite unpleasant, I dosed the rue about an hour before the DMT and felt the onset of effects about an hour later. It quickly became physically overwhelming, and I felt I had taken too much rue and was going to be sick, however I was able to contain the nausea (which now seems like a mistake) and rode the experience out over about 6-7 hours.
There was very little OEVs, quite a bit of CEVs, most of the experience was felt in the body and while parts were helpful and ecstatic the majority was muddled and unpleasant.
After the effects had subsided I drank a lot of rooibos tea, didn't consume any food and went to bed a few hours later after journalling my experience. The next day my stomach was a little upset which I attributed to lack of food and the rigors of the day before. I went about my day normally but after lying down to go to sleep at about 10:30pm that night I was struck by a buildup of energy in my chest which resulted in fairly intense tremors radiating up and down my body, like the energy was trapped in my body with no way to be released. This continued in waves for about an hour and then I drifted into a bizarre dreamlike state somewhat similar to a DMT experience but much less vivid. What I saw could be described as a rebuilding of the earlier energy and when I awoke an hour later I could feel the energy in my chest again, and commenced tremoring once again. I attempted to release the energy in a few ways (shaking it out, excreting it, breathing it out), all to no avail, after another hour or so the tremors subsided and I fell asleep around 3:30am.
Tremors are something I have long associated with the DMT experience, over the years I have been effected by similar tremors right before takeoff, which I just assumed were natural nerves.
It has now been 4 nights since my oral trip and these tremors have afflicted me each night. Usually I can fall asleep initially because I am very tired by this point, but I wake within an hour to the tremoring, then the fugue-like dreamstate for several hours and then eventually exhausted sleep. After 3 days of this terrible sleep pattern combined with work I broke down in tears (something that hasn't happened in many, many years). I had hoped this was perhaps what it was building too, and that with the release of tears I would be freed of the nighttime tremors but that night they continued as normal.
I am becoming quite anxious that I have affected something in my stomach/brain that is causing these effects and I am at a loss at how to remedy the situation. I have very few physical symptoms during the day, my stomach feels mildly upset in the mornings, and I have a slowly building sense of anxiety from the loss of sleep and worry that these effects might be permanent but nothing else.
If anyone has any information that could be helpful to me it would be greatly appreciated, as I am genuinely unsure as to why I am having this particular reaction.
Regards,
F
