Naked

[Philosopher]

When I trip on mushrooms, my psychedelic drug of choice, I always see things as naked. They are free of associations and regular daily attributions, everything is rather pure. I can view all things with infinite detail, that allows my flowing contentness of reality. I am pleased by everything I view because of its smaller parts that I seem to notice when tripping. Things in nature especially seem to have an innate mystical paradoxism of existence. In that, it is infinite, yet finite. It is one, yet all. Things I view millions of times a day, such as a fold in cloth, has infinite dimensional characteristics of color, depth, flow, and connectedness. How is it that a chemical can bring about such profoundness of objects? Things I've seen everyday since I was born, like trees, are completely novel and extremely intriguing, with their fractalized branches and roots.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

Yes!!

I have been thinking about this, too. The whole universe, being the fractal it [probably] is, is infinitely viewable in both directions. So, you can infinitely view objects, and still not see all they have to show.

Along with this, is the transcendental beauty of all things. We talked in my philosophy class, about how beauty is a transcendental property. To put it another way, beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, ugliness is. We paint a facade with our mind of ugliness over things we don't find beautiful. It's like mushrooms break that facade, and allow one to truly see.

It's one of my favorite parts of tripping! Mushrooms especially give me that child-like wonder about the universe. And, like you, one of my absolute favorite things to look at on mushrooms is trees. They're so gorgeous!!

 

[universecannon]

How is it that a chemical can bring about such profoundness of objects?

Its like a key that unlocks the doors to latent/inherent potentials/possibilities within us.
look at lsd...its fully metabolized and gone while your still in the middle of the experience

 

[universecannon]

Mushrooms especially give me that child-like wonder about the universe. And, like you, one of my absolute favorite things to look at on mushrooms is trees. They're so gorgeous!!

:thumb_up:

 

[Kenota]

look at lsd...its fully metabolized and gone while your still in the middle of the experience

I hate to ask, but where to people get this statistic from?
"Contrary to early reports and common belief, LSD effects do not last longer than the amount of time significant levels of the drug are present in the blood. Aghajanian and Bing (1964) found LSD had an elimination half-life of only 175 minutes. However, using more accurate techniques, Papac and Foltz (1990) reported that 1 µg/kg oral LSD given to a single male volunteer had an apparent plasma half-life of 5.1 hours, with a peak plasma concentration of 5 ng/mL at 3 hours post-dose."

The mean biological half life measured in clinical trials is thus between 3 and 5 hours. So call it 4 for arguments sake. Given that it is 15-30 minutes before it hits the blood stream, and say you take 120 micrograms, it takes two half lives to even fall below the threshold dose. This means a dose of 120 mics of LSD can be expected to last about 8.5 hours if you have average CYP450 function. Which is not inconsistent with reported trip lengths.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

"Contrary to early reports and common belief, LSD effects do not last longer than the amount of time significant levels of the drug are present in the blood. Aghajanian and Bing (1964) found LSD had an elimination half-life of only 175 minutes. However, using more accurate techniques, Papac and Foltz (1990) reported that 1 µg/kg oral LSD given to a single male volunteer had an apparent plasma half-life of 5.1 hours, with a peak plasma concentration of 5 ng/mL at 3 hours post-dose."

The mean biological half life measured in clinical trials is thus between 3 and 5 hours. So call it 4 for arguments sake. Given that it is 15-30 minutes before it hits the blood stream, and say you take 120 micrograms, it takes two half lives to even fall below the threshold dose. This means a dose of 120 mics of LSD can be expected to last about 8.5 hours if you have average CYP450 function. Which is not inconsistent with reported trip lengths.

thanks for this kenota, there is a lot of misleading info out there on the web about the metabolization of LSD.

 

[Kenota]

I know. It can be so difficult to find reliable and accurate information on it. One of the best places I have found in terms of depth of information is the MAPS LSD Investigators Brochure. Their brochures on Psilocybin and MDMA are also deep and insightful into the science of these things.

As for the original post, I think it is something about the shift in brain activity that disconnects you from the whole cultural-semantic web of links that's you've built up and lets you see things anew, refreshed and revitalised. It's a marvelous thing to behold, the whole world made new.

 

[universecannon]

thanks kenota! i didn't know that. sorry for spreading the somewhat inaccurate info

its still interesting to me that often i find myself tripping well into the next day (on stuff tested and shown lsd)

 

[Kenota]

thanks kenota! i didn't know that. sorry for spreading the somewhat inaccurate info

its still interesting to me that often i find myself tripping well into the next day (on stuff tested and shown lsd)

Ah, it's fine, we can only work with the info we have, right?

I know the feeling. I'd be interested to see monitoring of neurotransmitter levels post trip. I'd wager in a not insignificant number of people altered states continue due to a slow return to equilibrium conditions.

 

[DMTDivinity]

I would deduce, that in Everyday Life, you're not actually seeing the tree, but a projection of your mind. And the entheogen strips away your MindConstructs, Labels, Analysis, and allows you to see the tree for what it actually is. With infinite depth and beauty. Always fresh, always new. Only the mind stagnates things.

 

[rjb]

Yes! And what I find most interesting is that we're exactly the same things, as human beings, if you really go into the core of observation. But what I have come to understand is that this is in each of ourselves, it's not just some simple drug effects. The drug is the possibility, if you will, but without intention there's not much it will do for you.

Then there's the willingness to integrate those lessons into your daily life. For me, this has brought about new levels of understanding and of seeing that I could have never fathomed. So in that sense, I am extremely grateful to the mushroom, and I pay my respects regularly, but I am also grateful to myself for being understanding enough as to keep an open mind to this whole thing, what ever it is.