Kurukulla said:
I keep reading this nde,
MTb nde
I feel it's almost like a proper dmt trip.
Just wondering, to me dmt is basically a nde,
What do others think ?
Wow... that was quite a good read! And it's amazing how similar is it to many other NDE experience reports, as so many of the themes and visions are symmetrically typical of so many reports of the journey beyond life into death. Although, it's truly an extraordinarily epic and amazing example!
And it is very similar to the enigmatic voyage on NN-DMT, as well as the very peak moments of real LSD-25 and psilocybin mushroom immersions. Wouldn't if be amazing if someone could have their brains and blood tested immediately after a NDE or OBE? There may well be DMT released in our brains when we die. Or nearly die, as in my case. Call it a nearly, near death experience?
When I was 10 years old, the summer of 1968, I drowned in our swimming pool. While my father was performing CPR on my unconscious form, I left my body and hovered 12-15 feet over the whole dramatic scene. I was left with the most curiously odd feeling... if I was watching the little boy having his chest emptied of water, which was my body... then what was I? As I had no reference to psychedelic experiences, I obviously didn't understand OBE (astral projection).
But there I was floating over my prone body and the was this immense blinding white light above me. Not exactly white, as all kinds of diamond-like fractals of colored shards, emanate out of it's effulgent radiance, some colors that I had never even seen before, and would not afterwards, until I embraced entheogens.
I knew that the Light called for me to enter it's immensity. I also knew that if I went into it... I would die to the world of my childhood,leave my family and friends and create a lot of sorrow for those I loved. I was just a kid and all I knew of non-material reality was what I learned in Sunday school, which was pretty minimal. But I somehow knew that my conscious-awareness was my soul. That I was a soul with a body and not the body, which would eventually die. It was that part of me that had be me before birth and wold be me after death. but just what that soul essence was, I didn't have a clue nor a concept of.
I wanted to got into that living presence of the Light, like nothing I had even wanted before! It felt like it was like sunshine, music, laughter, candy and Gramma's kisses! Even better, if I have to compare apples and oranges.
This was about as far as I went, though. As I decided to live, I watched the small child begin to cough an choke up mouthfuls of water. In a split second, I felt the most painful thing I have ever felt, my lungs felt like they would explode with agony. It hurt more than any infected tooth, broken bone or really bad burn. Being a child, I shook it off and spent the rest of the day and evening in bed, being doted on by my mother and grandmother.
The only one I mentioned it to was my Gramma. She was one of those fundamentalist Christians who dressed out of the 19th century. Not exactly Mennonite but very similar. She was kind and highly spiritual,so I knew she would understand. I told her that I had seen God and his face was too bright to look at directly. That I had become an angel for a few minutes and wasn't afraid of anything anymore, not even dying.
She smiled at me in the way that only a grandmother can smile at a grandchild. She then began to read from the Bible. It seemed sort of hollow and lifeless, compared ti the all-knowing, loving light. This went on for some time but I was barley paying attention to her recitation of the scripture, for I was preoccupied with the rush of having been floating i the sky, high above my ordinary existence. It seemed pretty magical to my childlike sensibilities.
Anyway, whether the chemical released instantly in the brain is the DMT molecule or not, something powerful is projecting people out of their bodies when intense trauma or NDE occur. There are no coincidences and OBE always seem to coincide with specific chemical interactions in the brain and glands. The same can possibly be said for certain chemical releases in our brains from deep meditation, sensory deprivation, fasting or even long distance running (and many other methods).
I've had very, very similar peak experiences, to the wonderful narrative above. And I've gone far deeper than my mild NDE as a child, on several psychedelics. Those OBE were far more intense, just like the beautiful account we all just read. There is rarely any dialog, as my mind is often silent. But at the very apex of the peaks, the Divine Light and Void experiences are similar in many ways. It's a such wonderful experience, who could be fearful of material death? :thumb_up:
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