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Nebulizing Spice

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Wonderlust

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I was thinking about different routes of administering DMT today, and it kinda just hit me. I used to have asthma when I was little and I had a nebulizer that I used to inhale "Broncho Saline" solution with. (Looking at my old bottle of "Broncho Saline" it turns out all it was was salt water...here's a quote from the back: "Broncho Saline is a sterile liquid solution consisting of 0.9% sodium chloride for oral inhalation with a pH of 4.5 to 7.5"). Anyway, whenever I had a mild asthma attack I would turn on the nebulizer and inhale the saltwater. It actually helped A LOT whenever I had trouble breathing. All the nebulizer would do is turn the saline solution into a vapor so that it could be inhaled through the mouthpiece.

Anyway, now my asthma is basically completely gone and I have had a medical grade nebulizer laying around unused for years. I decided to see if anyone on the Nexus has used a nebulizer to administer DMT and I came across this topic which has been dead for a while: A new, important idea--must read! - Other - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

It turns out nebulizers work by agitating the solution using certain frequencies in order to create very small water droplets or a fine mist.

So the question in the last thread (i'm not a member yet so I'm not allowed to post in the thread I linked) was whether or not DMT fumarate could be dissolved and water and administered through the nebulizer? (there's also the possibility of dissolving freebase DMT in ethanol or using a nebulizer for psilocybin and mescaline solutions too...)

I'm assuming this would be safe but I would like some reassurance from the more knowledgable members here. What are your thoughts about this method? I'm going to be doing my first extraction in about a month and I'm really excited! This could be a very nice way to take DMT.

Also, the DMT fumarate/water solution could be called Nebula to fit in with the hyperspace theme 😉
 
I'm thinking I might want to test this with cannabis before I do DMT (mainly because the purity of extracted DMT is always at question)

What's the solubility of THC in ethanol?
Also, the idea of using Tea Tree Oil Tea tree oil - Wikipedia to dissolve freebase DMT was brought up. Could diluted tea tree oil be used to dissolve THC as well? If so, what's the solubility?
 
Well, freebase dmt should be soluble in an essential oil.

So maybe dissolve it in a mild, safe essential oil and nebulize it. Most essential oils you probably shouldn't directly inhale though. I don't know which ones, if any, would be safe undiluted.

Or maybe just use a carrier oil....not sure which ones could be used in a nebulizer? Jojoba maybe?...something light and non-viscous.

Look around here: Floracopeia .....to see if there's any information that might help you formulate an idea.


The dmt fumarates dissolved in water sounds like a worthy experiment. Wouldn't take hardly any water to dissolve 10-50mg.

Ethanol sounds like a bad idea. Ever accidentally big inhalation of everclear? Not recommended, lol. You'll choke. :shock:
 
inhalation of ethanol=bad, dooable but bad. my curiosities were sparked by the post the op linked, but i was also disappointed in the blunt non descript end that topic took. i would be very happy to hear of this one going further. my only suggestion would be to try it in small amounts and see what happens. i would go the route of the salt in water, i'd also think using distilled water or otherwise purified water would be beneficial.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking the tea tree oil stuff might not be the best idea...but it's really diluted, only 1% oil, so i'm still curious about it.

A quick search yields that nebulizing alcohol became a fad in bars some years ago. Here's a report from a forum I found of a guy who nebulized alcohol: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119112 In no cases that I've seen has lung discomfort ever been reported from nebulizing alcohol.

And most interestingly, from the same forum post I linked above the guy finishes off his report by saying:
Finally, this seems even more promising in delivering "more powerful" drugs (on an equivolume basis) that are water-soluble.
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I don't know why he specifically says water-soluble substances, but I assume since his experiment with nebulizing alcohol went fine that nebulizing ethanol-soluble substances would be fine too.
 
http://boards.cannabis.com/concentrates/157159-nebulizer.html
Quote from the first post:
Nebulized said:
Ok I looked everywhere didn't find anyone do this yet I have done this and can promise it is very productive. After making a tincture(Master Wu) I was looking at different ways of introducing it. I stuck it in a nebulizer.

A nebulizer is a device that asthma patients use as well as others to atomize the liquid as you inhale it. I had a lot of shake and decided it was a good concept, I was looking at compressing it in a cannister(like sativex does) for a MDI(measured dosage inhaler). I wanted to go out and hang it from my neck like a regular asthmatic inhaler.

Well what I ended up doing to test my theory is bought a nebulizer and poured a small amount(and that is all you need not even a teaspoon) of liquid in it. Because it is going into the lungs it is a automatic high. It is a very clean high that you end up with what I call the bobble head effect (your head is on it's own but your still on the ground?). Each breath(hit) is tasty like great bud, you get a automatic high. It is not a stoney(couch ridden) high, you can still be productive but you feel great.

One thing great about this is you can continue to get high/er or you can ease off(you can control it), the after effects are minimal(if existent), I don't know how long the high is though I'd say it lasts as long as a smoking high for regulars(45min-1.5 hours). Just like the dropper drinking method it takes very little to get the day going great. One thing nice is that if you can't take a capsule or dropper due to time frame you can get yourself a shorter high and it is still very economical.
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Wow someone with a neutralizer has to try this soon! Im assuming they just you a piezoceramic disk to agitate the water to vapor. You can buy really simple ones at pet stores which make "fog" for reptile etc enclosures. Maybe make a piece with it if the neutralizers are costly... although I dont know if they are.

Edit: Looks like they can be had for about $30 with shipping on ebay. Probably an easier route then DIY.
 
I've considered this. Hope someone finds a way at some point.

Why doesn't anyone try this with other drugs though?

Someone should try this with something potent like acid. It'd be a lot easier.
 
g13juggalo said:
Someone should try this with something potent like acid. It'd be a lot easier.
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Going the inhalation route rather than ingestion, I can imagine it being extremely difficult to get a manageable (low enough) dose that way.
 
I'm going to be trying this with marijuana, a la the method that was posted by Dagger. I'll report back to here if it works (although I'm only going to be able to try it in a month or so) and if it does, i'll try it with DMT
 
adding the spice to ethanol then nebulizing would not be harmful to your health, more so than smoking anyway

some company made a device doing just that, called the AWOL alcohol without liquid

You should try it

I have personally done it with 151

very harsh but do able

it takes about 15-20 minutes though to "inhale" about one ounce of liquid

less than a shot

but it is different and weird

supposedly easy to get alcohol poisoning if you "inhale" to much

so you would have to get your full dose of spice in 1oz of ethanol

anything higher than 152 would be VERY harsh
 
Sounds good! I have yet to try my experiments, it will take a while until I actually can.

Do you know the solubility of acetates in water? or perhaps ethanol (are they even soluble in ethanol?)
 
Threads about this subject always seem to be dead end threads with nothing positive to report. I hope that changes.
 
My friend is halfway through an A/B as we speak. His nebulizer is sitting right next to him. Hopefully some good news will follow shortly :)
 
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