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Nebulizing Spice

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He's planning on dissolving approximately 50 mg (he's got a kind of crappy scale) of reddish-yellow freebase in a minimal volume of white vinegar (5% acetic acid), then putting the whole shebang in the neb. Thoughts? Suggestions? He also has several grams of brown syrian rue harmaloids, but wasn't planning on including those for the first test.
 
He's planning on dissolving approximately 50 mg (he's got a kind of crappy scale) of reddish-yellow freebase in a minimal volume of white vinegar (5% acetic acid)
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Perhaps use a syringe or something similar to add a drop of vinegar at a time. You don't want to overdo it on the vinegar. If you got it right, there shouldn't be any smell of vinegar left.
 
Dagger said:
He's planning on dissolving approximately 50 mg (he's got a kind of crappy scale) of reddish-yellow freebase in a minimal volume of white vinegar (5% acetic acid)
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Perhaps use a syringe or something similar to add a drop of vinegar at a time. You don't want to overdo it on the vinegar. If you got it right, there shouldn't be any smell of vinegar left.
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His thoughts exactly. He has several vials that are equipped with small glass droppers.
 
So he tried it last night, but it seems like a the milliliter of vinegar was simply too much to handle, even when reacted with the appropriate amount of spice (in this case it seems it was 50-60 mg). Though the acidity was apparently minimal (he forgot to test pH), he found himself coughing constantly, and could not inhale a significant quantity over 5 minutes. Next time he'll try increasing the strength of the vinegar by reducing it, then dissolving a similar quantity of spice in the smaller, more potent vinegar so that he has less to deal with overall. He also intends to use pH testing to be sure it is as close to neutral as possible.
 
I have a nebulizer and thought about this also.I just dont think you can inhale enough in the right amount of time. Also maybe dmt salt dissolved in water might work better than vinegar but I dont know if you can inhale salts for the desired effect
 
Big Inhale said:
I have a nebulizer and thought about this also.I just dont think you can inhale enough in the right amount of time. Also maybe dmt salt dissolved in water might work better than vinegar but I dont know if you can inhale salts for the desired effect
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I was under the impression that acetate salts (which is the state DMT would be in in a vinegar solution) should be absorbable in this manner, especially since nebulization is NOT vaporization, more like 'mistification'.
 
goldenbloo said:
Big Inhale said:
I have a nebulizer and thought about this also.I just dont think you can inhale enough in the right amount of time. Also maybe dmt salt dissolved in water might work better than vinegar but I dont know if you can inhale salts for the desired effect
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I was under the impression that acetate salts (which is the state DMT would be in in a vinegar solution) should be absorbable in this manner, especially since nebulization is NOT vaporization, more like 'mistification'.
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Thats why I said im not sure. I was thinking using dmt salts with water not converting freebase using vinegar. So go try it out report back and let me know if I need to fire ip the nebe.
 
You could try dilute the vinegar to 1%, then use a syringe to add to the dried freebase spice. Add until all is dissolved. This way you should get a minimal amount of excess vinegar.
 
Dagger said:
You could try dilute the vinegar to 1%, then use a syringe to add to the dried freebase spice. Add until all is dissolved. This way you should get a minimal amount of excess vinegar.
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This seems like the opposite of the desired effect. The idea, it seems to me, is to have a minimal volume of liquid, as nebulization deals with very small quantities of liquid. Sorry for the lack of updates, my friend has been exploring alternate universes through more tested methods.
 
Like I said, these kinds of threads end up going nowhere. You need the DMT in highly concentrated form for this to work. I doubt it's possible without an MAOI, because without an MAOI you need a whole bunch all at once or you develop tolerance to the DMT while nebulizing it. This should work better for bufotenine or psilocin.
 
Wonderlust said:
I'm thinking I might want to test this with cannabis before I do DMT (mainly because the purity of extracted DMT is always at question)

What's the solubility of THC in ethanol?
Also, the idea of using Tea Tree Oil Tea tree oil - Wikipedia to dissolve freebase DMT was brought up. Could diluted tea tree oil be used to dissolve THC as well? If so, what's the solubility?
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Yeah ethanol will get you drunk.

I believe THC is soluble in fats. Maybe dissolve some hash in oil? I wouldnt really wanna be breathing that kind of gunk in though. (Guess it is better than tar and carbon monoxide, but still)
 
nebulization is NOT vaporization, more like 'mistification'.
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Very true


Whoever recommended using a salt would be correct as the medicine would need to be adsorbed in a similar fashion.




Nebulizing this type of medicine would be tricky

I imagine even a small amount of vinegar would be very unpleasant to inhale.

Even if you could get it into 1oz of palatable liquid it will still take 20 minutes to inhale it.

You need the DMT in highly concentrated form for this to work. I doubt it's possible without an MAOI, because without an MAOI you need a whole bunch all at once or you develop tolerance to the DMT while nebulizing it.
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Could be true, as it would take a very long time to consume the substance.
 
All of these nebulization threads go no where. All these threads are dead ends. Why is that?

Has any psychedelic ever been nebulized successfully?
 
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