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benitoamanito

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ok if im making elf rice, after i extract the alkoloids with the acid, i have to defat and use lye and all that right? now what if i dont t do that, and i try to smoke it, will it work? basically is there a way to make a smokeable or usable product without lye and strong chems
 
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ok if im making elf rice
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I don't think the elves eat rice. :lol: I'm just kidding. I don't think it's possible. There's really nothing wrong with using harsh chemicals. None of it will get into the DMT as long as SWIY is careful. If SWIY is worried about lye getting into it, you can clean it really easily with sodium carbonate via Vovin's Tek on this site.
 
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ok so swim doesnt want to use any crazy things anymore... hes wants to use like lemon juice and vinegar for the acid... then waht for the base? something natural.. will plants with high alkaloid contents such as nightshades (potatoes with skins, etc) work to basify o a good enough point or whatever? and what can swim use instead of naptha or whatever for a solvent??? help me out here, swim wants to make elf spice the OG way,, the way the elves made it before toxic chemicals came from the bad aliens
 
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...... well if you use anything with some alkaloids to basify youre solution you are just going to get those alkaloids in your solvent. and the harmful chemicals are only harmful if you let them cause harm by not using them properly. and also, no matter what you use to basify, a ph of 14 can cause serious harm either way. and naptha is harmless unless your huffing, lighting it on fire, or drinking it. and the way the "elves" made it was to make a tea with the plants themselve's i'm sure they weren't extracting pure dmt, that is, unless they were using a base, an acid, and a solvent. if you want to drink aya, then get some mhrb or similar, and some caapi or similar and make a brew, filter, reduce, and drink. then that opens up the door you need to figure out maoi's which can kill you in a whole different way if you don't take a special diet, and other considerations. there is going to be a risk with anything you try. the size of this risk depends on your abilities.

you are going to need:

-patience
-research (lots)
-determination
-concentration
-common sense
 
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ok well elves didnt have lighter fluid and pyrex smoking devices.. soo im guessing they had to think of something.. what about ashes, from burning some type of wood? for making it basic again. do i even need to turn the solution back to basic, i mean isnt that just for defatting? im trying to keep it legit. and what kind of solvents besides like lighter fluid and stuff is there.. like would really strong alcohol work or something? im sure theres plants with all the necessary things to get dmt in so many different forms.. we think so limited.
 
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well they may have but i do not know. turning the solution basic is for converthing the naturally present dmt from salt form to freebase form. if it is kept at salt form, you could not smoke it because the heat would destroy it, there is no point to try it. if you wanted to get the pure dmt salt out, and then ingest that with an maoi (i'm guessing in plant form) then you might as well just make the brew. the solvents i am familiar with is naptha and xylene, although i have heard of a couple on here. naptha xylene toluene limonene and some others somewhere. and what do you mean by "we" think so limited. how do you know how other's on here are thinking? maybe we just know that it is alot easier, efficiend and worth it to just use the widely available things such as Naptha: $10 ace hardware; Lye: $10 ace hardware; water: ...; mhrb: many places, very cheap; jars: .....

naptha is great because it gets the dmt and almost no other compounds out of the mhrb (such as fat oils and the such) if you get stronger other solvents, you are pulling more crap out, and will only have to clean it with other chemicals afterwards.
 
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and why are you so afraid of lye? if it gets on your skin, neutralize with vinegar. the only other thing you have to worry about is reacting with aluminum, drinking it, and getting it in your eyes. and naptha..... just don't light a flame on it... and don't huff it and don't drink it.
 
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amurph1111 a ph of 14 can cause serious harm either way. [/quote said:
and why are you afraid of lye and naptha? don't drink, spill, ignite, or pour into your eyes, and you're fine...


doing easy things gives you unsatisfying results. you will have to take some type of risk for something great. this seems universal to any aspect of life...
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well guys, im pretty sure that traces of ammonia stay on the crystals either way.. applying a flame to that and inhaling the fumes of ammonia probably aint good for you. if it eats skin i mean, its probably not good for your lungs or insides. so like acid: lemon juice acid or lime juice.. or maybe vinegar.. then id just have to make it a base again, use like vegetables or something.. im not tripping about yeild i just want a product i can smoke
 
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