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Hello folks

Great forum and tons of useful info here. I have read a lot in this forum even before I joined so its great to get a chance to interact with great minds.

Im just starting out and learning about DMT and psychedelics mostly for spiritual purposes and not to get high. I'm looking for my first trip but mostly for an easy experience at first maybe try some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose or Morning Glory (Seeds).

Anyone got tips for an absolute beginner dont be shy and let me know how you got started and what did you try first ? Im sure you have been here before.

Thanks
 
Hello and welcome to the Nexus!

I started off trying LSA via HBWR seeds. While that was mostly pleasant, it was not my favorite. I tried mushrooms after that and they totally blew me away. It was like the doors of perception were thrown wide open and ever since then I see the world in a different way. A positive way.

I moved on to LSD, RCs, Mescaline and then DMT. All of these substances are extremely powerful and should not be taken lightly. I can't say what would be best for you to try but whatever you choose I highly recommend that you start with low doses and build your way up once you become more familiar and comfortable in the psychedelic world.

Best of luck in your future endeavors!


-The Grateful One-
 
The Grateful One said:
Hello and welcome to the Nexus!

I started off trying LSA via HBWR seeds. While that was mostly pleasant, it was not my favorite. I tried mushrooms after that and they totally blew me away. It was like the doors of perception were thrown wide open and ever since then I see the world in a different way. A positive way.

I moved on to LSD, RCs, Mescaline and then DMT. All of these substances are extremely powerful and should not be taken lightly. I can't say what would be best for you to try but whatever you choose I highly recommend that you start with low doses and build your way up once you become more familiar and comfortable in the psychedelic world.

Best of luck in your future endeavors!


-The Grateful One-
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Yes thats what im thinking small dose of HBWR seeds or Morning Glory seeds. Did you eat/chew them or do the cold water extraction drink? Are these seed relatively safe to trip for the first time ..whats the worse that could happen ?

Appreciate it.
 
I have tried eating whole seeds and sublingual absorption. I never tried any sort of extractions when it comes to LSA. The thing I disliked the most about LSA via HBWR was the nausea and the body load (felt like my inner thigh area was cramping. Mildly annoying)

To counteract those feelings, I always make sure to have some MJ ready to go. It helps with the nausea for sure.

What is the worst that could happen?

If you take it easy and learn about you substance and pay attention to set and setting, little to nothing will go wrong.

Worst case scenario you could become confused/disoriented which can lead to fear and sometimes full blown panic. You could experience ego death which is pretty intense the first time it happens. Scratch that, EVERY time it happens.

This is why it is important to have a sober sitter who could help you if the experience is overwhelming. They can help you relax and pull yourself out of a dark/scary trip. Or they can call for medical attention if necessary. I've known some people who ignored these simple psychedelic guidelines and ended up in the hospital with no knowledge of how/why/when they got there.

Just take it one step at a time. Dont rush or force it and the payoff for patience is well worth it. This forum is all about harm reduction and safety so as long as you are smart about what you are doing, you will be fine!

:thumb_up:
 
The cold extraction from what I can tell from my research seems to reduce the nausea and cramps because it filters out the toxins.

How many seeds would you recommend for a beginner and how long does the trip last usually ? Im just looking for an euphoric trance and expand my consciousness but not looking for an intense breakthrough kind of trip. I dont know if that makes sense. I guess I know what I want but not sure how to really explain it.
 
Check out this thread (they discuss dosage a bit):



I would start out somewhere between 4-6 to get a feel for them. I've eaten up to 12 whole seeds. The nausea and body load was rather heavy on 12.

The length of the trip can vary depending on dosage and your body chemistry. Mine always lasted anywhere from 6-10ish hours including comedown and after glow. But it is pretty subjective and user dependent but these are some general guidelines.
 
Blessings on your journey! You are in for some adventures, challenges, miracles, confusion and insight I think :)

Interesting choice for your first experience - I hope it goes well!

When I first got into these things I really didnt know very much and had certainly never heard of HBWR or Morning Glories.... I found mushrooms and salvia first... Eventually psychedelics in general ended up clearing out a depression I had had for years and completely changed the course of my life for the better. Wasnt an easy experience and it still isnt easy, but I cant imagine living any other way!

My most trusted plant ally is San Pedro - often but not always gentle, and very practical and profound wisdom. Very grounded.

I can also recommend mushrooms or chewed salvia (I dont recommend smoked personally). Ayahuasca is another love of mine, but is a bit more intense and involved to really work with....

I actually havent worked with Morning Glories or HBWR but that is something I want to do at some point... I really look up to the Mazatec tradition and they worked with mushrooms, morning glory, peyote and salvia! I'm sure I will get around to it at some point, but each plant has so much to teach and offer that I already have my hands full with the ones I work with now lol....
 
Don't forget that it is ok to have fun! Psychedelics can bring us into a child like state. What does a child do? Plays!!!!!!!!

:) :d 😁 :lol:
 
Hi there jim2015,

For some general info that could help you get started with psychedelics, check out the link in my signature to the Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook. It should give you a good overview of what to consider.

I've never tried HBWR and the only morning glories i've tried were a fail, so I really don't know how they are as a first experience. In general I'm not a big fan of small doses, so after an initial test dose to watch for allergic reactions or other potential internal hazards I'd go for a medium dose using a sitter. I'd go for something that doesn't necessarily cause nausea - so mushrooms or LSD as a first experience, or even vaporized DMT. Nausea can be a bit frightening when you're also tripping...

Good luck which ever way you get started.
 
Hey there Jim, welcome to the Nexus :)

Psilocybin mushrooms were my first experience and if i was to recommend a first time to someone it would probably be the same, starting with ~1g of dried Psilocybe Cubensis, preferably in a tea without any lemon

I think starting with a low dose and working your way up is a good idea in order to familiarize yourself and develop a trust in the substance you're working with, while low doses can be a bit 'neither here nor there' for some in my opinion it's still wise to work your way up

It's nice to see you're also interested in spirituality, i highly recommend meditation before to prepare your mind, during to maximize the experience and after for integration, i look forward to seeing how your first experience goes :)
 
The only reason I was looking at HBWR seeds is because its not that intense from what ive read and does not require too much preparation and of course I can order it online.

Yes, Cubensis would be my choice but growing them seems daunting and I may or may not get it right so who knows how long can that take. Too bad I cant just order caps to make tea.

Ive looked at San Pedro powder/chips to make tea but have not been able to find any TEKs for working with powder only.

Lots of information to process but Id rather do this right and work my way up slowly.
 
Jim -

Why is it you feel a need to use a substance to have a spiritual experience? I would encourage you to carefully consider and answer that question before you choose to use any psychedelic substance.

Whatever you decide to do please do your research and be careful, psychedelics are very powerful tools and can show you things about your life or yourself that you may not like very much or that you weren't even aware existed.

I know you didn't come here for a lecture....but some things must be said.

I'd have to say my first enjoyable psychedelic experience was with about 1.5 grams of mushrooms. It was a very mild and manageable dose to "test the waters" so to speak. The duration was fairly short as well so if you don't care for the experience you don't have to deal with it too long.
 
honestly, 1.5-2g shrooms at nice park/lake/waterfall is my ideal first psychedelic experience, i would recommend that to anyone for their first steps. so far ive enjoyed shrooms a lot more than DMT just cause you have time to prepare as the trip rises slowly to its peak, whereas with DMT its like you reach the peak of a shroom trip then multiply that by a million all in a fraction of a second. definitely wouldn't recommend DMT as a first psychedelic. i stopped DMT and am now gradually building up to a 5g shroom dose before i even consider it again.
 
jim2015 said:
The only reason I was looking at HBWR seeds is because its not that intense from what ive read and does not require too much preparation and of course I can order it online.

Yes, Cubensis would be my choice but growing them seems daunting and I may or may not get it right so who knows how long can that take. Too bad I cant just order caps to make tea.

Ive looked at San Pedro powder/chips to make tea but have not been able to find any TEKs for working with powder only.

Lots of information to process but Id rather do this right and work my way up slowly.
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It can seem daunting at first but take your time, there's no need to rush with these things, it will all happen at just the right time...

Perhaps a mushroom grow kit is the way to go if you want to try some Psilocybe Cubensis, you will have enough shrooms for first few explorations, then if you want to go further i'm sure you will look into bulkier more involved grow teks...

Also, wild psilocybe mushrooms grow worldwide... so maybe you just need to wait for the rains and go do some hunting? :)
 
jim2015 said:
The only reason I was looking at HBWR seeds is because its not that intense from what ive read and does not require too much preparation and of course I can order it online.

Yes, Cubensis would be my choice but growing them seems daunting and I may or may not get it right so who knows how long can that take. Too bad I cant just order caps to make tea.

Ive looked at San Pedro powder/chips to make tea but have not been able to find any TEKs for working with powder only.

Lots of information to process but Id rather do this right and work my way up slowly.
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You dont need a tek for San Pedro powder - you just stir it into water and drink it before it becomes jelly-ish.

I just get live cuttings and make tea though - very easy and I like drinking the tea more then powder. As long as you have a pot to boil the cactus in you dont need anything else - you just chop, boil for a few hours, then strain it out and drink.

Of course, maybe HBWR will be a good intro - always good to follow your heart :love:
 
I agree with Chronic & Godzy recommending a low-dose of mushrooms as a first experience.

That was my first psychedelic (substance) experience also (not including some very psychedelic Cannabis experiences I had before that) & it was easy to handle in general.

Best of luck & welcome to the nexus!:d
 
A pressure cooker sure does help. I would say it is absolutely essential unless there is a better way to sterilize your jars that I am unaware of. Sterilization/keeping spores from contamination is one of the biggest factors when growing shrooms. Especially during inoculation.

100% sterile environment = a happy home for your mushies!
 
The Grateful One said:
A pressure cooker sure does help. I would say it is absolutely essential unless there is a better way to sterilize your jars that I am unaware of. Sterilization/keeping spores from contamination is one of the biggest factors when growing shrooms. Especially during inoculation.

100% sterile environment = a happy home for your mushies!
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What happens if it gets contaminated ? Can you still eat them or do they not grow ?
Just trying to understand this part of the process. Thanks
 
If your jar is not sterilized you risk growing other contaminants in with the mushrooms. What kind of contamination depends on what you made you substrate out of. The goal of the process is to grow the mushrooms only. Its fungi so if other things are growing with it they are/could be:

1. Taking food and nutrients away from your babies.
2. Possibly a mold or other type of unwanted contamination.
3. Infecting and killing your babies
4. Not mushrooms (which is the goal in the end, right?)

So, yes I do believe they would still grow but would I eat a product with unknown contaminates? No, I would not!

:)
 

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