No more visuals

[DeltaSpice]

Hi everyone,
I'm suffering from lack a of special effects or connection .
Every evening for some time I've been smoking Changa rolled up with Mullein .
For the past 3 weeks, I've had no CEV's at all. No God code what so ever :/
Prior to these three weeks I had 14 days of amazing effects every single day.

I totally understand that its the nature of psychedelics to be inconsistent.
Some times allot can do little and visa versa but 3 weeks is a long old time.

I've learnt to get the most out of the experience minus the visuals.
Just by staying laid down with my eyes closed I can bring on the deeper side of the experience and gain insight into certain thoughts. Which I suppose is the main reason I chuff on Changa.

I can open my eyes during the experience and see effects aplenty but I'm of the opinion that eyes closed is the way forward.
I did waste about 6 months of smoking , sitting in a chair with my eyes open.

Hopefully things will change soon. I have been a good boy, working hard and being a nice person

I deserve some major God code events..
Any one els going through the same?
Maybe its the onset of winter that has messed up my mojo.

Enjoy everything.

 

[Icon]

You should give it a break. As you said, it's elusive. Dosing every day with the expectation of something happening is bound to disappoint you eventually. The disappointment becomes a second anxious expectation, and before you know it you're numbing each experience with distracting nocebo. Take a week off, or several weeks. Wait until your mind is stable and clear and the moment feels significant, then I bet you get much deeper. Then take another break, to integrate that experience and its lessons into your daily life. Scheduled use is a waste.

Maybe think of it like surfing? It's exhausting to do every day, and silly to paddle around the water without waves present. Wait until you feel a wave of momentum coming, then ride it out.

 

[oversoul1919]

Hi everyone,
I'm suffering from lack a of special effects or connection .
Every evening for some time I've been smoking Changa rolled up with Mullein .
For the past 3 weeks, I've had no CEV's at all. No God code what so ever :/
Prior to these three weeks I had 14 days of amazing effects every single day.

I totally understand that its the nature of psychedelics to be inconsistent.
Some times allot can do little and visa versa but 3 weeks is a long old time.

I've learnt to get the most out of the experience minus the visuals.
Just by staying laid down with my eyes closed I can bring on the deeper side of the experience and gain insight into certain thoughts. Which I suppose is the main reason I chuff on Changa.

I can open my eyes during the experience and see effects aplenty but I'm of the opinion that eyes closed is the way forward.
I did waste about 6 months of smoking , sitting in a chair with my eyes open.

Hopefully things will change soon. I have been a good boy, working hard and being a nice person

I deserve some major God code events..
Any one els going through the same?
Maybe its the onset of winter that has messed up my mojo.

Enjoy everything.

Sometimes, it's not about visuals. Sometimes, DMT has to show you something which can't be represented by visuals.

And also, it might be that you're overdoing it, and hyperspace is temporarily closed for you.

 

[Earthwalker]

Maybe think of it like surfing? It's exhausting to do every day, and silly to paddle around the water without waves present. Wait until you feel a wave of momentum coming, then ride it out.

That's a excellent way of putting it , I'm stealing it !

 

[DeltaSpice]

You should give it a break. As you said, it's elusive. Dosing every day with the expectation of something happening is bound to disappoint you eventually. The disappointment becomes a second anxious expectation, and before you know it you're numbing each experience with distracting nocebo. Take a week off, or several weeks. Wait until your mind is stable and clear and the moment feels significant, then I bet you get much deeper. Then take another break, to integrate that experience and its lessons into your daily life. Scheduled use is a waste.

Maybe think of it like surfing? It's exhausting to do every day, and silly to paddle around the water without waves present. Wait until you feel a wave of momentum coming, then ride it out.

I never considered taking a break.
I guess because its done so much good for me.

""Scheduled use is a waste"" I am like clockwork every evening before dinner I have my 20-30 mins of Changa time.
You seem knowledgeable and make good sense, so I will try to go a week without or lets say 5 days.
I'll wait for the wave as you suggest.
Many thanks

(Changa * I Think I've Found Me)

 

[ghettohmbrglr]

kinda going through the same thing, although i am not doing it anywhere near daily. the experience is just generally less visual from one time to the next.

i am wondering if it could be from oxygen exposure to the dmt? i don't know much about that is it something that could happen within 2-3 weeks of an extraction. i've kept it in a tupperware container in my fridge mostly maybe the container is too large?

 

[Jin]

consume some melatonin for few days (3mg atleast everyday)

for whatever reason whenever the visuals go down , i consume melatonin for a few days and they come right back on

this may or may not work for you , everyone is different

i don't recommend smoking right after taking the melatonin , what i mean is - consume melatonin before sleeping and smoalk the next day in the afternoon-evening or whenever

 

[Nereus]

Breaks work for me too, but once I got told something interesting by someone in that there is light at the end of the darkness. It's either you stop for a while, either you have to go through the darkness, accept it, make peace with it until it pass.

On a side note whatever I choose to feed my brain with has a result on my experiences, be it books, music, relationships, travels etc.

I feel like there is a supply of things that must be restocked once in a while for these experiences to work at full potential.

 

[DeltaSpice]

consume some melatonin for few days (3mg atleast everyday)

for whatever reason whenever the visuals go down , i consume melatonin for a few days and they come right back on

this may or may not work for you , everyone is different

i don't recommend smoking right after taking the melatonin , what i mean is - consume melatonin before sleeping and smoalk the next day in the afternoon-evening or whenever

Sounds like a top tip but I'd have to look into Melatonin first, make sure it doesn't do some craziness to me ?

Just checked..Its prescription only in the UK

 

[Jin]

St John's wort

Hypericum perforatum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Melatonin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

eitherways you can also order melatonin supplements from the internet , without a prescription

 

[GoldenEye]

St Johns Worth is a natural SSRI and changa contains smoked MAOI's. Not a good idea.

 

[Cascadeimage]

Sometimes it's about learning lessons. Once the lesson is learned, the visuals come back. This is mostly because of a preoccupation with something in particular. Unfortunately, it's difficult to be more specific than that, as it could be a lot of things.

Some people tolerate consistent use better than others. Serotonin levels are always a huge factor. If you're constantly forcing your brain to deal with elevated serotonin levels, there will be occasional drop-offs and your mood will suffer. Mood swings are fine for some people depending on their lifestyle, but it's important to remember that your bad day could spread to one of your friends or etc.

If you're keen on doing it every day, it's advisable to eat healthy, get plenty of sleep, and stay active for an optimal regimen.

 

[DeltaSpice]

Sometimes it's about learning lessons. Once the lesson is learned, the visuals come back. This is mostly because of a preoccupation with something in particular. Unfortunately, it's difficult to be more specific than that, as it could be a lot of things.

Some people tolerate consistent use better than others. Serotonin levels are always a huge factor. If you're constantly forcing your brain to deal with elevated serotonin levels, there will be occasional drop-offs and your mood will suffer. Mood swings are fine for some people depending on their lifestyle, but it's important to remember that your bad day could spread to one of your friends or etc.

If you're keen on doing it every day, it's advisable to eat healthy, get plenty of sleep, and stay active for an optimal regimen.

I like that idea. Learn the lesson and then you may proceed
I stay away from bad foods generally and get about 7 hours sleep a night.
I've been smoalking daily for over a year now and it works really well for me.
The most I've gone without any visuals in past has been 7 days and usually the odd 4 days here n there.

I have three things to try now.
1. Melatonin
2. Giving it a little break.
3. Figure out the lesson
Cheers

 

[feelin]

St Johns Worth is a natural SSRI and changa contains smoked MAOI's. Not a good idea.

I second this.

I was drinking St. John's Wort tea for a while. When I smoked changa the experience was dull and the message was clear - 'What's this doing in your system? It's a very powerful plant! It is intended to ease emotional crises that require an intervention! You don't need its help at this point in your life. It clashes with your ability to explore the plant world.'

 

[expandaneum]

i would opt for number two,

2. Giving it a little break.

like 2 months or so and then gradually build up

i have had this problem two times afther excesive use(not projectng this on you) the first time the continuation resulted in some severe hyperslaping, blackouts when incresing the dosage etc.

the second time i just gave it some time, this is way better:d

 

[DeltaSpice]

i would opt for number two,

2. Giving it a little break.

like 2 months or so and then gradually build up

i have had this problem two times afther excesive use(not projectng this on you) the first time the continuation resulted in some severe hyperslaping, blackouts when incresing the dosage etc.

the second time i just gave it some time, this is way better:d

Taking a break is the sensible option but I couldn't go a month without.
I have some Melatonin arriving tomorrow so first I will try that.
If by 2 days there is no change or maybe the melatonin dosnt agree with me then I will have no choice but to take off a few weeks.
Maybe I should only partake at the weekends.
As Rick Strassman says *The brain is hungry for DMT* My brain is starving
I'll give it some serious thought.

 

[Icon]

Taking a break is the sensible option but I couldn't go a month without.
As Rick Strassman says *The brain is hungry for DMT* My brain is starving

I think that's part of the problem lol. I know you've been doing it so often for so long without issues. But it makes sense that you're losing effects if your form is starving to devour and consume more, even just metaphorically. Like the ayahuasca diet, dmt works exceptionally well after abstaining from compulsive indulgences that wear out your neurotransmitters. Habitual sex, drugs, sugars, DMT, etc. could dull your sense of those stimulations. I'd insist on the break before trying to override this natural message of limitations you're being given.

 

[1ce]

I've had this problem with enhanced leaf in the past. I've changed my smoking method and that fixed everything.

I use a steamroller pipe, I put 2 screens at the bottom of the bowlso they fit into the cone better. I'll add a small layer of ash, then shake it so it's even. Then I will sprinkle my spice over that, using something sort of like a toothpick so it's even. I'll add one more screen and top with another layer of ash.

To smoke, I'll hold the flame at the top of the bowl. My steam roller will immediately fill with dense smoke and I'll tap the carb. I'll tap it 3-4 times. By then it stops filling so rapidly so I puff until my lungs are right about full and shotgun it all in there.

My lungs are LOADED with vapor. I've done up to 75mg in 1 breath doing this and it works WELL!

P.S.

Don't do 75mg unless you are VERY sure. I didn't loose peak effects for about 30 minutes, and was tripping for almost a full hour.

 

[Sabnock1990]

You could try supplementing with a little bit of B6, i noticed before that when i started supplementing with 100mgs of B6, my Ayahuasca experiences became alot more visual than usual. Might be worth a shot.

 

[starway6]

Same thing happens to me when i vape too often and i vape straight DMT only..

Take a break at least 5 to 7 days and your visuals will return along with trhe head space....

peace..