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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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Ehm... also I'm not a chemist, but I'm not sure if limonene will let the 2 react. I also do not reccomend drying the mix before adding the limonene as freebase mescaline is quite fragile when it comes to heat and oxygen.

If it's bothering you, leave the limonene a couple of days and most of the tiny droplets will settle, though I doubt there's much mescaline in there compared to what is in the aqueous layer.

I re-use the limonene so I'm not too bothered about a little water staying in because it's going to come right back out on the next pull.
 
Off Topic: I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. If i put 225ml of mescaline saturated vinegar in my oven at 170*F, how long would it take to
evaporate? And if the door on the oven is cracked open to let the vapors out, will the smell be overpowering?
 
All the mesc acetate I've seen is anything from light beige to dark brownish black, never seen anything yellow like that.
Maybe 69ron can shed some light on that wierd coloration.

Evaping vinegar without a ventilated room becomes very overpowering if you're evaping hundreds of mls.
You get used to it, but when you leave for a bit and come back it's like putting your head into a bag of salt and vinegar chips and inhaling deeply.
 
Thanks guys, another question now. SWIM has some dried(as much as possible) dark red mescaline acetate and doesn't have a scale. Would a pea size ball be around 300mg? Because
the mescaline is still sticky it must weigh more so that's why he thinks a pea size would be around 300mg. I'm just trying to visualize 100mg. Thanks



Edit: SWIM took a small half pea size estimated to be around 100mg. The experience was forever life changing, full of joy and laughter, seriousness and social interactions. SWIM Hearts Mesc. SWIM Hearts Life.

Peace!!!
 
looking through this closely, my friend asked me to post a few questions, 69ron:

1 - Powderize your dried cactus. Mix 100 grams of dried powderized cactus with 25 grams of calcium hydroxide. Add 300 ml water to make it feel wet but not watery. Mix for about 5 minutes.

Fine, I get that, no worries. It'll be like a slurry, right?


2 - Add 300 ml of d-limonene. Mix well. Let sit a few hours.
So the d-lim, base water, cactus are all stewing.

3 - Pour off the d-limonene through a filter. (It's really cool if you use a French Coffee Press for this. Using a French Coffee Press you press the cactus mix and squeeze out the d-limonene to get every last drop of d-limonene out. Then filter it through a paper coffee filter.)
This is where my friend is confused. Do you mean to use a French coffee press, like a bodum, with a plunger as your initial mixing vessel? So, you'd have all the ingredients in the coffee pot, leave it for an hour or so to break down, then press it. So then you'd have the cactus captured at the bottom under the plunger, then the 300 ml of basic water, then the d-lim, which you'd pour off, and filter through coffee?

In short, What happens to the base water if you use the french press to squeeze the mix?


the rest my friend understands. Thanks in advance.
 
isiton? said:
looking through this closely, my friend asked me to post a few questions, 69ron:

1 - Powderize your dried cactus. Mix 100 grams of dried powderized cactus with 25 grams of calcium hydroxide. Add 300 ml water to make it feel wet but not watery. Mix for about 5 minutes.

Fine, I get that, no worries. It'll be like a slurry, right?


2 - Add 300 ml of d-limonene. Mix well. Let sit a few hours.
So the d-lim, base water, cactus are all stewing.

3 - Pour off the d-limonene through a filter. (It's really cool if you use a French Coffee Press for this. Using a French Coffee Press you press the cactus mix and squeeze out the d-limonene to get every last drop of d-limonene out. Then filter it through a paper coffee filter.)
This is where my friend is confused. Do you mean to use a French coffee press, like a bodum, with a plunger as your initial mixing vessel? So, you'd have all the ingredients in the coffee pot, leave it for an hour or so to break down, then press it. So then you'd have the cactus captured at the bottom under the plunger, then the 300 ml of basic water, then the d-lim, which you'd pour off, and filter through coffee?

In short, What happens to the base water if you use the french press to squeeze the mix?
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SWIM says there's not enough water present for you to be able to squeeze it out. It will stay stuck to the cactus mix. You can squeeze really hard (not too hard or you'll break the press) and not be able to get any water out. Only d-limonene comes out. That's SWIM's experience anyway.
 
Anyone know of any canadian d-limonene suppliers? The shipping from greenterpene to canada costs as much as the product itself. Or perhaps does anyone know of any canadian(offline) stores selling it under different brand names. Any help would be very appreciated, thanks!
 
has anyone tried more then 100g at once?
i was thinking of mixing the base,cactus and water in one vessel till its putty and transferring to a larger soaking vessel...
im thinkin of doin about 200-300 at once in this fashion just using more limonene for each soak..
any thoughts/suggestions?
i will post results..

EDIT/UPDATE: well i went ahead an started

mixed up 100g cactus/25g caoh/300ml warm tap
let mix set 30 mins then transferred to the soaking vessel (2quart pyrex cup)
added 400ish ml limonene (enough to cover + 1/2 inch is what i go for)
mixed up another 100/25/300 and once more let sit 30mins then added to the soaking vessel
no more limonene was needed to keep mix covered...

i weighed out another 100/25 i think theres room..
but eh i dunno if i feel like messing with it anymore maybe tomorrow
i plan to soak the cacti awhile..
 
amor_fati said:
Total yield thusfar: 1.55%. This has been largely pulled with the same amount of limonene each time. After about three separate pulls, SWIM doubled the amount of limonene by adding to the limonene in use; that, using larger amounts of vinegar, and probably time, boosted SWIM's yield significantly on his second to last pull. He suspects that this last pull was about the last he'll get, but he'll try at least one more. Vinegar's quite cheap, so why not?
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SWIM just pulled 806mg more from the same batch of cactus. That's 2.356% from 100g of dried Peruvian. He didn't use the oven this time, just set the dish behind a fan. Guess SWIM'll just keep pulling.
 
I got 3g acetate from 100g San Pedro chips. Very happy!
Think I did 3 limo soaks and 4 vinegar pulls on each.

Thanks again Ron, ur tek is the bizniss.
 
So here is a question from my friend. SWIM wants to get mescaline that isn't like a goo. Would vit. c dissolved in water to salt out mescaline from d-limo result
in easy to handle mescaline? SWIM doesn't have the materials to find out for himself but thinks maybe some chemist on here might know before he gets his supplies.
Or would some other acid do that? thanks
 
69ron said:
2.356% is very good. So that's 4 pulls now?
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Yep. SWIM was certain that it had already been fairly exhausted, but it's been soaking with lime for some time now and is still giving a yield. SWIM can't wait to construct his box-fan drying device, as that last one evaporated pretty fast from sitting behind a fan.

By the way, can anyone give a brief rundown on the differences in effects between peruvian, pachanoi, and bridgesii
 
amor_fati said:
By the way, can anyone give a brief rundown on the differences in effects between peruvian, pachanoi, and bridgesii
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SWIM says the torch is the most like pure mescaline, very clear headed, less dreamy. Pedro and achuma are similar in some ways, both being more dreamy, but achuma has an effect that is very unique to it which Pedro seems to lack. Achuma is the least like mescaline. With achuma, SWIM feels definite but mild vasoconstriction. It’s almost ayahuasca-like, very dreamy. It’s hard to describe.

With this extraction tech, SWIM says torch gives the cleanest results.
 
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