Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

[mew]

~~Traveler::

does fasa precipitate better than fasipa? fasipa worked well with fresh cooked cactus, but not so well with san pedro powder. dont know why. it is very hard to separate from the dlimo because it is too whispy, and does not hold together to decant. also, it will go thru a coffee filter. this was not the case with cooked fresh cactus that clumped nicely with fasipa, and formed a cake on the filter.

couldnt you wait for precips to stop then just add water and let it be separated as an aqueous phase, then evap the water? or would the ipa mess up this theory

 

[mew]

@ mr kush

tell your foaf to use the least amount of water as possible when extracting mesc (especially when your bassifying the powder)

roll basic powder around in a vessel, this separates the dlimo out

try using a caserole dish (the big square pyrex), the more surface area exposed the easier the separation, unless your basic cacti is more of aslurry, if thats the case, well idk man, id add more cacti till it gets clumpy

 

[rudder]

From the wikipedia article on methyl ethyl ketone:

Butanone is listed as a Table II precursor under the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances.

Butanone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I've searched the net for where to buy this, and it seems that only some major chemical supply companies have it. How much should one expect to pay for x quantity? Also, isn't it a bit risky to purchase given the above information?

Perhaps there's something easier to use that can be found at a local hardware store?

 

[soulman]

What tek/methods have people had success with when trying to squeeze the limonene from the cactus mush before adding the vinegar? (As in, if you havent got a french coffee press) ?

SWIM is struggling at the minute!!

 

[endlessness]

I think that best is to use pressure cooker to separate liquid from mush. Not sure whats the second best option.

 

[The Day Tripper]

My FOAF is in the middle of this...

He is having a hard time seperating the d-limo from the cactus sludge. When he tries to filter it with either papers or wire mesh the sludge clogs up the pores and doesn't allow any of the d-limo to pass through. He's not able to decant it off the top either...

has anyone come up with a good way to seperate the two?

Sorry for asking, I tried my best to read through the 54 pages, but only had time to scan and couldn't find anything.

My foaf did this a couple years ago with success, but at the time had a buchner funnel he poored it into, the vacuum helped the liquid(NP) come through. He no longer has one...


Foaf was also wondering if seperating isn't doable if he could add more water and NaOH and turn it into a stb. Does D-limo seperate easy or does it form nasty emulsions?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Thats a doosey.., but you can fix it (imho).

Add more water, lye and salt, then stir the mixture in a warm container (water bath) and as long as you have the cactus sludge thinned out enough by the water, you'll eventually get separation.

Once i got separation, and pulled off my limo I'd dry that sludge, and pull with limo, then just filter out the particulates, no agua, no goo/sludge :thumb_up:

You could also try freezing it/thawing it, or thinning it out with a bit of water, and throwing it on a vibrating surface. I'd be careful putting something with limo in it in a pc, or something going on the stove.

You could put a vac on it too, that would prob burst the cell walls/sludge/slime your getting when hydrating cactus flesh.

I prefer not to mess around with that gooey/slimy/sludgy/unfilterable crap by doing a 70-90% dry alcohol pull on the powder or chips, and make a resin first. Then proceed to do a stb,a/b, or just eat that resin if you don't care about purifying the alkaloids.

No goop/sludge involved.

 

[Loveall]

Directly salting rested/decanted/clear limonene with benzoic acid powder is a likely simplification for this TEK. I'll give it a try eventually and report back, but if anyone is doing this limonene process and feels like trying an experiment they may find that benzoic acid simplifies the salting step a lot.

Benzoic acid is used in the food industry as a preservative and available as food grade.

Cheers and happy crystal growing

 

[Loveall]

Directly salting rested/decanted/clear limonene with benzoic acid powder is a likely simplification for this TEK. I'll give it a try eventually and report back, but if anyone is doing this limonene process and feels like trying an experiment they may find that benzoic acid simplifies the salting step a lot.

Benzoic acid is used in the food industry as a preservative and available as food grade.

Cheers and happy crystal growing

Tried adding benzoic acid to limonene pulls. Doesn't work. No xtals precipitated. Can't explain why toluene works but not limonene