Nathanial.Dread
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Maybe its just bringing up feelings/doubts you already had? I think often we know certain truths about our own situations that we block out from our conscious mind. I feel like microdosing mushrooms brings these things up as emotions.
infinitynlove
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jamie said:
I totally agree, mushrooms defiantly bring unresolved and suppressed issues to the surface. but that's pretty much why I take them.
they allow me to review my life from a different point of view, which is really good for me as i am constantly reviewing my life anyway, so having a different perspective to work with really helps
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Nathanial.Dread
Sorry you are having a hard time, no you haven't burnt out any serotonin receptors, mushrooms are one of the safest psychedelics you can take, as far as I know they do not cause any damage to the body or brain at all.
Maybe taking psychedelics at this time is not the best way to deal with your current situation.
Maybe try some other things to make you feel better, breathing exercises, yoga, psychical exercise, meditation etc.
Peace
Archmage
Rising Star
Nathanial.Dread said:
Nate,
In my experience, tripping is never something I enact when there are depressing things going on in my life. Now,I'm never unhappy any longer, just something that kind of happens as you grow older I suppose....but in general, I won't touch psychedelics if there are negative or even controversial emotions floating around in the old think tank.
If you do insist on continuing with psychedelics during this state of mind, next time do everything you can to "tweak" your environment to a more "happy" vibe. What I like to do is set up a 10 hour playlist of happy music that I love. I hang colorful sheets and blankets on the windows, make my favorite foods and drinks so that I can just chill and enjoy myself.
Good luck bud!
Mister_Niles
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Maybe your dose was too high. I am planning a micro dose experiment in an attempt to resolve a headache that I've had for several years now. I've been to a neurologist, tried a bunch of meds that didn't work, massage etc, now it's time for mushrooms. I need to grow some first, but I'll get there.
My plan is to make a powder of the mushrooms so I will have a more homogeneous mixture which should lead to more consistent dosing. I will start with a moderately strong trip. 3.5 grams probably. Then after that, wait a week to see how things are going. After that week, I plan to start taking small doses and working my way up a bit, until I feel something and back off a little bit if I need to. I plan on starting at 10mgs. I know this might sound ridiculous, but what can it hurt to go slowly?
It sounds like you were doing low dose instead of micro dose. I've always found low dose mushrooms to be anxiety inducing and dysphoric. Try a much lower dose.
It also sounds like you were looking for a quick fix for mild depression. That doesn't usually work with any drug, except maybe ketamine, but I don't know if that would work for mild depression. There are recent studies that show that it is effective in a single dose for treating severe depression. The effects seem to last for a long time. I'm not advocating the use of ketamine. It seems to be a problematic drug both in and out of clinical settings.
Anyway. if you decide to continue your experiment, try working with a very low dose and see what happens. Keep us updated please.
My plan is to make a powder of the mushrooms so I will have a more homogeneous mixture which should lead to more consistent dosing. I will start with a moderately strong trip. 3.5 grams probably. Then after that, wait a week to see how things are going. After that week, I plan to start taking small doses and working my way up a bit, until I feel something and back off a little bit if I need to. I plan on starting at 10mgs. I know this might sound ridiculous, but what can it hurt to go slowly?
It sounds like you were doing low dose instead of micro dose. I've always found low dose mushrooms to be anxiety inducing and dysphoric. Try a much lower dose.
It also sounds like you were looking for a quick fix for mild depression. That doesn't usually work with any drug, except maybe ketamine, but I don't know if that would work for mild depression. There are recent studies that show that it is effective in a single dose for treating severe depression. The effects seem to last for a long time. I'm not advocating the use of ketamine. It seems to be a problematic drug both in and out of clinical settings.
Anyway. if you decide to continue your experiment, try working with a very low dose and see what happens. Keep us updated please.
Archmage
Rising Star
Mister_Niles said:
Niles,
I had chronic migraines for 15 years as a youngster(constantly) and then I did my first batch of shrooms approx. 21. I've had 2-3 migraines since then, and all of them dehydration related.
I've only shroomed 2-3 times in my life but it was noticeable as I was hunger then and hadn't tried any previous psychedelics.
After the migraines mysteriously disappeared, I did a little research and found out that several ivy league universities were doing research specifically into the treatment / cure of chronic migraines with the administratin of psilocybin.
Please let me know how it works out for you, and I wish you the best of luck.
Shrooms changed my life for the better and started this long road of traveling.
I am currently in the incubatin period of my babies and can't wait to dose my wife for her first shroom experience.
Warrior
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ND,
You have something eating at your psyche. With or without more time with shrooms, you gotta figure out what's grinding your gears. You've got something on your mind and you aren't sure what it is. It's blocking negative energy inside of you.
Try this method I just typed up the next time you low/microdose:
Best wishes to you, my friend!
You have something eating at your psyche. With or without more time with shrooms, you gotta figure out what's grinding your gears. You've got something on your mind and you aren't sure what it is. It's blocking negative energy inside of you.
Try this method I just typed up the next time you low/microdose:
Warrior said:
Best wishes to you, my friend!
Mister_Niles
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Thank you Archmage. I appreciate the input. I am going to micro-dose if the full on trip in the beginning doesn't do the trick. I have limited experience with mushrooms. Mostly low doses that made me anxious. Splitting an eighth. A couple 3.5 gram trips. Combined 3.5 grams with LSD once for an incredibly immersive experience. That was 20 years ago. What dosage would you suggest?
I'm currently in research mode. Will start buying supplies soon. Going to try PF tek with Psilocybe cubensis B+. Seems like a good place to start. It also gives me a good reason to REALLY get my house cleaned up.
If I do end up micro-dosing Nathaniel.Dread and I can compare notes, if he continues
I'm currently in research mode. Will start buying supplies soon. Going to try PF tek with Psilocybe cubensis B+. Seems like a good place to start. It also gives me a good reason to REALLY get my house cleaned up.
If I do end up micro-dosing Nathaniel.Dread and I can compare notes, if he continues
Archmage
Rising Star
Mister_Niles said:
I'm going to try to post a table from another site.
Species Beginners dose fresh Beginners dose dry Full dose fresh Full dose dry Massive dose fres Massive dose dry
Psilocybe tampanensis* 7.5 grams 2.5 grams 15 grams 5 grams 30 grams 10 grams
Psilocybe cubensis 15 grams. 1.25 grams 30 grams 2.5 grams 45-60 grams 3.75-5 grams
Panaeolus cyanescens 5 grams 0.4 grams 10 grams 0.8 grams 15-20 grams 1.2-1.6 grams
Psilocybe McKennaii 5 grams 0.4 grams 20 grams 1.6 grams 30-40 grams 2.4-3.2 grams
Psilocybe azurescens 4 grams 0.4 grams 8 grams 0.8 grams 15 grams 1.5 grams
Wow... That actually came out decent.
Here's the site link:
Scroll down the page and the table there should jump out.
Mister_Niles
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Yeah. Thanks Archmage. That's a great link in general. I'm looking forward to and slightly dreading my future mushroom experience. It's been a long time. Hopefully in the next couple months, you'll see a post titled: How mushrooms cured my infinite headache
I'm really looking forward to the preparation phase. I can start that today. I'm snowed in. Nothing else to do besides building a snowman. May as well start cleaning the house.
I'm really looking forward to the preparation phase. I can start that today. I'm snowed in. Nothing else to do besides building a snowman. May as well start cleaning the house.
Archmage
Rising Star
Niles,
If its a few months out, you need to spend that time gently changing your perspective to no dread whatsoever. You need to know its going to be an extremely positive experience... Both physically for the healing of your brain/headaches and metaphysically for the advancement of your soul/conscious embodiment.
No one should attempt tripping with a feeling of dread. Psychedelics have the tendency to bring the subconscious thoughts to the front of self perception.
Whatever negative experience you may have had in the past was likely due to certain things occurring in your life at the time.
Wrap your brain around that....look forward to the experience, and do what I suggested to ND in a few posts above.
Prepare your trip "setting" as Trav likes to call it, set up a playlist with happy happy music for 12 hours. Clean the house, make some of your favorite foods and drinks....and try not to mix them with other substances.
If you know you'll do fine, you will.
If you will you'll do fine, there's nothing more to say.
If its a few months out, you need to spend that time gently changing your perspective to no dread whatsoever. You need to know its going to be an extremely positive experience... Both physically for the healing of your brain/headaches and metaphysically for the advancement of your soul/conscious embodiment.
No one should attempt tripping with a feeling of dread. Psychedelics have the tendency to bring the subconscious thoughts to the front of self perception.
Whatever negative experience you may have had in the past was likely due to certain things occurring in your life at the time.
Wrap your brain around that....look forward to the experience, and do what I suggested to ND in a few posts above.
Prepare your trip "setting" as Trav likes to call it, set up a playlist with happy happy music for 12 hours. Clean the house, make some of your favorite foods and drinks....and try not to mix them with other substances.
If you know you'll do fine, you will.
If you will you'll do fine, there's nothing more to say.
Nathanial.Dread
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Just a comment on how we let the weather affect us.
As a lot of us here know from the use of psychedelics, perspective is everything. I enjoy the snow and the rain. I don't let the weather influence my moods. Even though if the weather changes suddenly it can trigger insanely painful headaches/migraines, I still choose to embrace what comes. Try to find the beauty in freshly fallen snow. Or a torrential downpour of rain.
Some of the best trips I've had with mushrooms and LSD were during the cold winter months. Wandering around in the winter wonderland, gaping at a hillside of untrodden snow as it changes from purple to green to blue to red. Even just the breath you exhale into the cold night air enveloping you like some magical cloud of smoke.
I know it's probably one of the most common things people complain about; bad weather. You just don't have to be that way if you choose to accept it as it is and stop wishing for perpetual sunshine and happiness :thumb_up:
@Niles, do keep us posted about your success, or lack thereof, of your mushroom experiment. I always love to hear about others who have cured themselves of vicious chronic migraines with the magical fungi.
As a lot of us here know from the use of psychedelics, perspective is everything. I enjoy the snow and the rain. I don't let the weather influence my moods. Even though if the weather changes suddenly it can trigger insanely painful headaches/migraines, I still choose to embrace what comes. Try to find the beauty in freshly fallen snow. Or a torrential downpour of rain.
Some of the best trips I've had with mushrooms and LSD were during the cold winter months. Wandering around in the winter wonderland, gaping at a hillside of untrodden snow as it changes from purple to green to blue to red. Even just the breath you exhale into the cold night air enveloping you like some magical cloud of smoke.
I know it's probably one of the most common things people complain about; bad weather. You just don't have to be that way if you choose to accept it as it is and stop wishing for perpetual sunshine and happiness :thumb_up:
@Niles, do keep us posted about your success, or lack thereof, of your mushroom experiment. I always love to hear about others who have cured themselves of vicious chronic migraines with the magical fungi.
I don't know, but i would speculate that there are several different reasons for depression. Perhaps it is the complex etiology which makes it hard to treat. I'm depressed because i feel constantly stressed out by my sorroundings and my own way of looking at myself and my past. Mushrooms allow my ego to take a time out, to go on vacation so to speak. Afterwards, i feel mentally rested.
But i have read about others that feel that 5ht agonists MAKE them feel depressed, so maybe the biomedical way of looking at things has some merrits too.
Actually, there are ketamine "clinic" popping up already. There is a high profit margin - doctors are charging something like 400$ per ketamine infusion - and that is cheap. On the shroomery, someone talked about getting 8 Infusions for a low 6000$. My personal experience is limited but the reports are nothing to snear at. On bluelight, someone developed a promising treatment model several people followed with succes since 2008. The culprit seems to be, that quite a few people can't resist ketamine addiction. But if you already ponder suicide, there is not much to lose, i'd say.
But i have read about others that feel that 5ht agonists MAKE them feel depressed, so maybe the biomedical way of looking at things has some merrits too.
Actually, there are ketamine "clinic" popping up already. There is a high profit margin - doctors are charging something like 400$ per ketamine infusion - and that is cheap. On the shroomery, someone talked about getting 8 Infusions for a low 6000$. My personal experience is limited but the reports are nothing to snear at. On bluelight, someone developed a promising treatment model several people followed with succes since 2008. The culprit seems to be, that quite a few people can't resist ketamine addiction. But if you already ponder suicide, there is not much to lose, i'd say.
ND,
My best advice, during this time that your gf is away and friends not near, do some healthy activites. Not saying microdsing mushrooms can't help, just saying you should focus on getting your mind right without resorting to a psychedelic to 'give guidance/help'.
I see that alot here with people when they're depressed/etc. I love psychedelics as much as the next person, but sometimes it takes a baseline approach and fruitful, healthy activities to get ones mind in gear.
Meditation, yoga, exercise in some form, art, music, a nice walk, whatever it is that you like. Psychedelics aren't always the ideal thing when one is facing hurdles, sometimes a much simpler approach is needed.
Hope I didn't come off as sounding rude brother. Just trying to help You'll pull through this just like anything else, as long as you work at it.
tat
My best advice, during this time that your gf is away and friends not near, do some healthy activites. Not saying microdsing mushrooms can't help, just saying you should focus on getting your mind right without resorting to a psychedelic to 'give guidance/help'.
I see that alot here with people when they're depressed/etc. I love psychedelics as much as the next person, but sometimes it takes a baseline approach and fruitful, healthy activities to get ones mind in gear.
Meditation, yoga, exercise in some form, art, music, a nice walk, whatever it is that you like. Psychedelics aren't always the ideal thing when one is facing hurdles, sometimes a much simpler approach is needed.
Hope I didn't come off as sounding rude brother. Just trying to help
You'll pull through this just like anything else, as long as you work at it. tat