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I ran another extraction on some old MHRB soup (a solution with lye and all) that I had in my closet for 4 months.

I just added new Naphta and tried to do a pull, but I got this goo instead of crystals.

Last time I managed to do 3 pulls on the same soup, so I figured it still had some value.

Is it because the soup was kept for this long?

Could it be because of the Naphta I used? Last time I used Zippo ligther fluid, and now I used a bottle that was labeled as "white spirit" (ingredients: Naphtha (petroleum), hydrotreated light)
 

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IKilledSanta said:
Thanks.
Any risks of using it like this?
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Well, judging by the colour, it does rather look as though it could also be contaminated with base soup. And its consistency also makes it hard to weigh out a dose accurately.

You are entirely responsible for your own decisions, however.
 
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Transform said:
Well, judging by the colour, it does rather look as though it could also be contaminated with base soup. And its consistency also makes it hard to weigh out a dose accurately.

You are entirely responsible for your own decisions, however.
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Thank you.
I thought those are plant oils, so I figured those will be okay to consume.
The soup has some harsh chemicals, so i'll run a mini a/b on it.

Btw, my Naphtha (mentioned above) sounds legit, right?
 
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IKilledSanta said:
Btw, my Naphtha (mentioned above) sounds legit, right?
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Did it pass the evap test?

The chem supplier near me calls it white spirit/turps.

Naphtha <60%
Kerosine <20%
Heptane (and isomers) <10%
Octane (and isomers) <10%
Methylcyclohexane <10%
Cyclohexane <5%
Toluene <5%

Quite the list.
You'd have to have to check the MSDS sheet to see what yours contains.
 
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61pete said:
Did it pass the evap test?

The chem supplier near me calls it white spirit/turps.

Naphtha <60%
Kerosine <20%
Heptane (and isomers) <10%
Octane (and isomers) <10%
Methylcyclohexane <10%
Cyclohexane <5%
Toluene <5%

Quite the list.
You'd have to have to check the MSDS sheet to see what yours contains.
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"Naphtha, hydrotreated, light" does sound reasonably hopeful, however.

[Incidentally, white spirit should properly be referred to as turps substitute, to avoid confusion with actual turpentine, which is a pine resin distillate.]
 
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61pete said:
Did it pass the evap test?

The chem supplier near me calls it white spirit/turps.

Naphtha <60%
Kerosine <20%
Heptane (and isomers) <10%
Octane (and isomers) <10%
Methylcyclohexane <10%
Cyclohexane <5%
Toluene <5%

Quite the list.
You'd have to have to check the MSDS sheet to see what yours contains.
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It did pass the evaporation test.
On the bottle it says: "contains: Naphtha.."
And that's it. I am not sure if that means its a 100% Naphtha, or they just didn't bother mentioning the other ingredients.

Id does have a more yellow color than the Zippo, and seems a bit more cloudy
 
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First time trying to extract it from mhrb I was following the lextek pdf on the old forums,
between step 2 and 3 I made up my own step where I shook the bottle as hard as i could to mix it.
Now I have a creamy homogeneous mixture of water, vinegar and solvent,
I was thinking about just basifying everything then washing it with more solvent?
I'm not sure what to do and any help would be appreciated. <3
 
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Never shake, that's how ya get emulsions. As you now well know.

Give it some time and hopefully things will separate and settle out, it could take days though. Some options to help that proceed are to add just a touch more water, or a touch more solvent. You could try adding a little sea salt (no anti-caking agents) as well.

Since everything is in the acid phase, all your goods should be in the water layer once it does finally settle out. Let it do that, discard the solvent layer, base and proceed as normal, gently rolling this time, no shaking.

For future reference, it's generally a lot easier to go straight to base, make all your solvent pulls, combine, then backsalt (mix with fresh acidic water, pulling the goods back into the clean acid-water layer, discard the dirty stb solvent), re-base and pull again into clean solvent, than it is to try and defat the initial plant material.
 
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KS0427 said:
First time trying to extract it from mhrb I was following the lextek pdf on the old forums,
between step 2 and 3 I made up my own step where I shook the bottle as hard as i could to mix it.
Now I have a creamy homogeneous mixture of water, vinegar and solvent,
I was thinking about just basifying everything then washing it with more solvent?
I'm not sure what to do and any help would be appreciated. <3
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I'm not the greatest person to walk someone through an extraction BUT to break an emulsion try to gently warm the solution and if possible give it light vibration. Shaking the vessel is unnecessary and can actually be dangerous depending on what stage you're at in the extraction i.e. dropping or tossing a jar of basic solution is a real pain to deal with. Always remember your ppe and emergency remediation protocols ♥️

Best of luck. I'd start with a warm water bath first w/o any extra stimulus personally 🤔
 
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KS0427 said:
First time trying to extract it from mhrb I was following the lextek pdf on the old forums,
between step 2 and 3 I made up my own step where I shook the bottle as hard as i could to mix it.
Now I have a creamy homogeneous mixture of water, vinegar and solvent,
I was thinking about just basifying everything then washing it with more solvent?
I'm not sure what to do and any help would be appreciated. <3
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How do you get to the old forums?
 
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