official extraction help thread

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Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[DK_one]

Ok, just decant and dry dropouts.

The recovered NPS I evap a part since I used to much after this I want to put it into freezer again. The first glas is pulled in an Erlenmeyer flask using magnetic stirrer, for me this worked so smoothly and got even far better result obviously. Guess I found my way of pulling finally!




I am not to sure if or which which of both I should recrystallize IPA or Naptha? I did the water wash and the goods look clean, don't they?

Some suggestion? In the FAQ in wiki it was said IPA should be the better way or was that just when having goo that needs to be cleaned?

 

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[Johnbug87!]

I want to know how much lye and solvent I’m in need of for roughly 250 g of mhrb though I plan on doing smaller batches first till I perfect my spice skillset!

 

[DK_one]

Opinions vary I guess.

But for me the 1:1 approximately worked very well for 48h sit and stirr...
After that the plant parts were completely one withe the water, if to say so.

Best go and work through this FAQ!
All my questions were answered there and I just didn't knew the page until a few days ago....

FAQ - DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

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Question:
I got a freeze precipitation going, NPS used 2nd.
Sits 36h now I was checking if everything ok.
But somehow all the crystals are swimming around in the middle of the NPS horizontal.

 

[fractals4life]

But somehow all the crystals are swimming around in the middle of the NPS horizontal.

Otherwise known as "floaters" ... I get them sometimes and have heard they are caused by too fast cooling of the NPS, some recommend going to the fridge first for a couple of hours, to get crystal growth going on the dish rather than suspended. I've also seen wrapping the dish in cloth before putting in the freezer recommended as a way of slowing the cooling down to ensure larger crystals.

When I get floaters they are always in the minority, with most crystals on the glass, so I just let them dissolve back into the NPS which is going to be used to extract again anyway.

 

[DK_one]

Hm, I had it in the fridge first for more then 30 minutes then over to freezer....
2nd strange thing is that nothing sits at the Glas or ground....
Could have been that a few drops of water wash h2o made it over.

Ok I found something over here

Having trouble getting my crystals to stick to dish..

This is my latest and probably best yield, haven't weighed it out yet but it appears to be almost double what I have been getting. I've been using heavily reused naphtha I think that's what's causing the off-white color. 50g ACRB using Cyb's tek. But I always seem to have this issue where the...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Besides that, how much mg DMT is hold by naptha ml? in the wiki or a thread with or by brennendeswasser it was said about 2g is this a typo and 2mg are ment for a ml Naptha?

 

[redbird]

Hm, I had it in the fridge first for more then 30 minutes then over to freezer....
2nd strange thing is that nothing sits at the Glas or ground....
Could have been that a few drops of water wash h2o made it over.

Ok I found something over here

Having trouble getting my crystals to stick to dish..

This is my latest and probably best yield, haven't weighed it out yet but it appears to be almost double what I have been getting. I've been using heavily reused naphtha I think that's what's causing the off-white color. 50g ACRB using Cyb's tek. But I always seem to have this issue where the...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Besides that, how much mg DMT is hold by naptha ml? in the wiki or a thread with or by brennendeswasser it was said about 2g is this a typo and 2mg are ment for a ml Naptha?

Iirc it's roughly 30mg per ml at room temp
1mg/ml at freezer temp.

Most people use way too much naptha in their pulls. Better to use smaller amounts and do more pulls.

Also, re-use your naptha so that a) you don't lose yield to that 1mg/ml that stays in and b) you dont have to fuss with filtering floaters and can just crystalize them in the next batch.

 

[DK_one]

I will try filter once since it is really a shut load of floaters. But I think I will do a math for next extraction. What does lirc mean?
Ok, meanwhile got to admit was not worth filtering. But now I know how much almost nothing can look like.

And 15ml h2o is a good amount for a 1% gram of material?
Is there a specific ml reduction amount, i.e., to what quantity should I reduce before pulling? Or is there a minimum reduction to X ml for X g of starting material?

Thanks for the help!

 

[Transform]

What does lirc mean?

if I recall correctly

 

[DK_one]

After clean up I am left with
420mg
Guess I made a failure with the scale before clean up or when I did read the scale. Had to weigh in 2 steps because of size of scale.

How ever for me this is pretty awesome result for first real try! Also speaks for a pretty good or potent source material of MHRB?!
Was Stb 50G with the 100/140 petroleum Benzin the SDS I Posted.

Half of it I want to Crystal grow in a tube glass

 

[DK_one]

A) The recrystallization was a loss of 10mg while using fresh not before used naptha.
Does that mean that the product was already pretty clean before the recrystall?

B) is it ~correct what I found, that 100ml acidic water holds about 1,5g DMT? (15g for a liter)

 

[Transform]

A) The recrystallization was a loss of 10mg while using fresh not before used naptha.
Does that mean that the product was already pretty clean before the recrystall?

Probably. The losses will include whatever DMT remains dissolved in your naphtha after freezing.

B) is it ~correct what I found, that 100ml acidic water holds about 1,5g DMT? (15g for a liter)

DMT salts tend to be highly soluble in water, but the exact figure depends on the acid being used. I suspect many DMT salts will be far more soluble than the figure you give, plus you need to specify a temperature to make the figures properly useful.

1.5g looks a bit like the amount of freebase that would dissolve in room temperature naphtha. If you were to tabulate all the DMT solubility information you've been finding, it would allow you to compare these things far more easily.

 

[DK_one]

For A it was a evap in Glas to grow crystal. Oh and I used a unused faster evaping naptha

On B was the first and only numbers I found yet regarding h2o holding capacity.
Don't want to do big math or exact counts. Got 100ml, 200ml Erlenmeyer which made the pulling Superior for me. (Using mag stirrer/water-bath next to it)

Next batch is a chacruna again, so I was wondering how much you can reduce the acidic water without a loss of Alkaloid load.


Got acetic, citrus, phosphoric acid's in my repertoire.
Which one would you recommend for chacruna?

 

[DK_one]

Hm, so no real difference in the acid cook by the used acid?

None is superior for leaf material?
The DMT handbook PDF points out that yields by phosphoric, hydro and sulfur is way bigger then the yields by acetic and citrus iirc?
But the handbook also is about root materials, that's why I was asking.

Or am I just to stupid to find a 100 times said thing?



Other question when acid cook the raising PH should be countered with more acid, or would that be bad idea?