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You can let it sit for a week. The crystal will just get yellower. Easily cleaned up. Fuck the ammonia wash too. Once you've gotten this far a recrystalization is the only way to go. When you pour off your new snow globes (ahem) make a little bag of the filter (use #4 coffee) and just dump the whole jar into it. Shake the jar over the filter to get all the naptha out and recap it and swirl the filter around to work the naptha through as quickly as possible. Spread it out on a plate to dry and once the jar is up to room temp, open it and pour out any remaining solvent and fan some air into the jar to dry it. This is where most of the alks will be and they can now be scraped out unto the filter to dry.
 
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Just wondering if anyone has encountered this... after SWIM re-heated his spice and added warm solvent to clean the crystals, it was left to cool, then put in the freezer. When he took it out, filtered it, and instead of having a yellow glop on the bottom and crystals on top, it was one hard chunk on the bottle of the glass. no crystals, more like a hard chalk. I'm sure it's still good, but just wondering what I should do. Re-heat and try again? or warm it and pour off the clear solvent and clean. thanks for the help.
 
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[quote:57b5e45484="sa_mull"]Just wondering if anyone has encountered this... after SWIM re-heated his spice and added warm solvent to clean the crystals, it was left to cool, then put in the freezer. When he took it out, filtered it, and instead of having a yellow glop on the bottom and crystals on top, it was one hard chunk on the bottle of the glass. no crystals, more like a hard chalk. I'm sure it's still good, but just wondering what I should do. Re-heat and try again? or warm it and pour off the clear solvent and clean. thanks for the help.[/quote:57b5e45484] Simply re heating and adding more solvent seems to be the first half of recrystalizing. However, when you let it cool you have to let the solvent pull the DMT out and let the "dirty product sink to the bottom." You should have clear liquid on the top and yellow gunk on the bottom. Pour the clear liquid off into a dish to be put into the freezer for a freeze precip stage (oh ps you should be using a shot glass or something small). let it sit in the freezer over night, in the AM pour off the remaining naptha and let it sit out and dry up. Crystals should be visible when you are pulling it out of the freezer and dry to shape once you pour off the naptha. This is just a quick explination, read how to recrystalize to do it better. Hope this helped, seems that that was what you were trying to do. Good luck.
 
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[img:53db9048a0]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p196/protagerus/photo-1.jpg[/img:53db9048a0] after about 9 hours by far not the best one ... just the first one grabbed. (it worked and we are happy but need to improve) I wanted to say thank you to "Norman" EDIT oops i see its "noman" no disrespect intended- specifically, and the rest of the group - who has saved swims extraction. The yield was small but it was her first time, and already knows areas in which to improve. There are some questions which are still kinda fuzzy- 1) when adding the NaOH- should this be done and completely dissolved (and cool off?) before adding the MHRB, or is the heat generated by this needed to help break down the bark. I have read other threads where some are stressing the need of a "hot" mix, others say the exact opposite. I know Swim added it Capped and shook the jug- a few min passed and then bark was added .. but it was still warm. I am questioning if this was done more rapid, would things improve. 2) also regarding the agitation and separation. It was said before the longer it sits there, the yellower things become- Is there any ball park rule of thumb to this stage? Swim experienced it splitting rather fast aprox. within about 3-4 min all but small darker bubbles rising thru, but there are clearly two levels. This is something that sill seems unclear if its being preformed for peak performance. any tips would be greatly appreciated altho it seems so straight forward I would just like some confirmation things are being preformed correctly. Siwm is getting there and thank you for working with em.............
 
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[quote:55f3c7d0b4="MisterGypsy"]I'm aware of my post count, but please do not disregard my message. I've been lurking (didn't see that coming, eh?) for a few weeks and have been working on my first MHRB extraction by research for literally hours a night to amass all the info I can. So far, my extract isn't going great. I suspect it's a ph/water issue, but I'm not experienced, though I have a handle on the chemistry. It's kinda syrupy. (STB with pre-powdered MHRB. A pitfall, I just found out.) So far, I have ~100mg of yellowy powder (all in one pull) and all my other pulls (4 or 5) are pulling nothing. After the NH3 wash, it is still yellow. My powder was exposed to light. Could that have a negative impact? After I fix this, I'll shoot for entheogenist's toulene red spice tek. Anyway, I humbly ask for some guidance. My arrogance/ignorance has 1/2 lb of MHRB wrapped up into this, with another 1/2 for my next round. Thanks.[/quote:55f3c7d0b4] Try doing an acid/base extraction with the powdered bark. It's extra work but has fantastic yields and precipitates out REALLY clean if done right.
 
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[quote:0d4d9b8bcb="PrOtAgErUs"]1) when adding the NaOH- should this be done and completely dissolved (and cool off?) before adding the MHRB, or is the heat generated by this needed to help break down the bark. I have read other threads where some are stressing the need of a "hot" mix, others say the exact opposite. I know Swim added it Capped and shook the jug- a few min passed and then bark was added .. but it was still warm. I am questioning if this was done more rapid, would things improve.[/quote:0d4d9b8bcb] The basic solution needs a little time to break down the bark. It doesnt need to be hot. Heat does help with the NP extraction though. Warm naptha holds more alkaloid than cold. I left that whole issue out of the tek because I wrote the tek to be as simple and basic as possible, but yes warming the solution will help pull more spice. It will also be a good bit gooier and yellow which ammonia will not wash out so one is pretty well stuck with a recrystalization. As for the other question - shit, I dunno. You tell us. Work up 200g of bark, separate the solution into four and let one sit an hour, one a day, one five days, and one ten days. Fuck rules of thumb, just find out what you need to know.
 
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Hello all. Ok my cat now have 100gs of mhrb in 800ml- 1l of basified water, by 8 level spoons. Is this ok? Will 100ml of naptha be enough for a first pull? Also, would freeze precip be ok done in a pie dish its all my cat has. Thanks for your help. :)
 
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frez. perip. in a pie dish sounds more like material for a simple longer term evaporation- Swims first un successful attempt made nice ice crystals under his naptha because of some moister (H20) that invated the party. at least try to cover with some kinda make shift lid or plastic wrap, but a recomendation of simply placing the whole pie dish under a fan and alittle more patience seems to be a better suggestion - My 2 cents also .. 100g mhrb should use aprox 1500 ml water 100g NaOH so swims been told according to nomans wisdom
 
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Ok cheers. Is a bit of a mish-mash of teks realy. As for evap, im worried about the fumes around the place as it is quite a small flat. Maybe i can put it by the window but i havent a fan at the moment. Cheers. :)
 
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[quote:5c75028150]Is a green tinted naptha a good sign?[/quote:5c75028150] Green you say? Never seen green before. [quote:5c75028150]Appears it has been a relative success, pale yellow wet crystaline paste has formed[/quote:5c75028150] There aren't just crystals forming on the walls of the jar? Have you already filtered it?
 
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[quote:973411ba6d="DZ-015"][quote:973411ba6d]Is a green tinted naptha a good sign?[/quote:973411ba6d] Green you say? Never seen green before. [quote:973411ba6d]Appears it has been a relative success, pale yellow wet crystaline paste has formed[/quote:973411ba6d] There aren't just crystals forming on the walls of the jar? Have you already filtered it?[/quote:973411ba6d] Went from slight green to a cloudy yellow. Yeah crystals formed on the side and bottom and yeah ive poured the naptha off back into the base and mhrb for the next pull.
 
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My FoAF has used a clear glass pie plate with great success. A make shift lid is created by covering the pie plate with plastic wrap and then placing a large plastic cutting board over top. On top of the board heavy freezer items are placed in order to hold it down and provide a decent seal. My FoAF has attempted to locate a more suitable glass plate w/ lid for this purpose but has had no luck searching cooking supply stores, container stores and online laboratory glass suppliers.. Looking for something with a flat bottom and straight, shallow sides w/ a lid if possible. If anyone has any suggestions that would be great.
 
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Theoreticaly after having it sit for 24hours the naptha has risen to the top but has gone lime green. Is this ok to use? My freind used swan lighter fluid by the way that evaporated cleanly. Should my freind recrystalise to be on the safe side? The two previous pulls have yeilded total of about 250mg-300mg of pale yellow sparkly dust. Is this good to go? Still has a slight naptha smell.
 
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hello all... just a question... if SWIM does, for example, instead of 3 or more pulls during hours with 100 ml of solvent each, one or two long pulls that last a minimum of two/ three days each with 200/300 ml of solvent (hexane, which evaporates very quickly), the result will be almost the same? SWIM wonders to do it just for minimizing the open/close/contact with vapors things, is he just stupid? Thanks for any advice you'll give him :roll:
 
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My best advice is make the most of the first full pull. Agitate. Let it settle. Agitate. Let set. Repeat. 2-3 days may be a bit extreme, and what you pull will become progressively less clean the longer it's in there IME.
 
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Hey guys I'm new to the forums, but I've been lurking around many places reading about DMT extractions. I have 1/2lb(approx. 225gs I suppose) of ground mimosa and am wanting to do Noman's extraction. I have a few questions though(sorry if they might be repeats) 1. How much mimosa should I use for my first attempt? I would use all of it, but I'm scared of possibly screwing something up and losing all of it. (unless I should just use all of it) 2. Could I place the jars in the freezer laying down on it's side, or do the jars need to be vertical? I assume it doesn't matter, but making sure. Also, how cold does the freezer need to be? I know this is kind of a silly question, but I have a minifridge in my dorm and the freezer I assume is cold enough, it keeps pizza rolls cold anyway. But I wasn't sure if I needed to use a big kitchen sized freezer or a big separate freezer.
 
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