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Even with MHRB I've found fumarates tend to revert to goo. They're just hygroscopic enough for higher levels of humidity to cause a mild deliquescence, although it seems that tendency is greatly reduced at above 25°C.
Limonene is also a tad problematic in that, besides its rather high boiling point and consequent slow evaporation, it also oxidises into products that are even stickier and less volatile. Repeated dry acetone washes of the stick fumarate may help with removing these limonene-associated residues, as may a recrystallisation from dry boiling IPA.
Limonene is also a tad problematic in that, besides its rather high boiling point and consequent slow evaporation, it also oxidises into products that are even stickier and less volatile. Repeated dry acetone washes of the stick fumarate may help with removing these limonene-associated residues, as may a recrystallisation from dry boiling IPA.
Sooo, I have some ideas but how would one exactly go about acetone wash or IPA recrystallisation? ;s I just got some acetone since I thought it might be helpful here D:
I feel like these are such basic things that it's difficult to find instructions on this forum
also I looked up what its normally meant in chemistry but am unsure how it actually works :')
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Washing == what it sounds like, mix the thing to be washed with some liquid and then separate them out again by settling or filtering. Note the emphasis on using dry acetone as any water in solution with the acetone will try to dissolve your fumarate and steal it. Dry the acetone with anhydrous epsom salts ( dry the salts in an oven ).
Recrystallisation == dissolve solid in a small amount of (often warm) solvent so the stuff you want is now all dissolved, filter or decant the solution to leave behind unwanted things.
Then allow the solvent to evaporate or cool so the wanted product recrystallises out of the solution and decant or filter off any remaining solvent to leave behind a purer product.
Recrystallisation == dissolve solid in a small amount of (often warm) solvent so the stuff you want is now all dissolved, filter or decant the solution to leave behind unwanted things.
Then allow the solvent to evaporate or cool so the wanted product recrystallises out of the solution and decant or filter off any remaining solvent to leave behind a purer product.
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Yep, dry the IPA, as per Transform's post above.
That's not technically recrystallisation, at least not if all the solvent is allowed to evaporate. Slow evaporation does produce the biggest crystals, though, but the point of recrystallisation is to leave impurities in solution. This is best done by exploiting the temperature solubility gradient, which fortunately works well with anhydrous IPA in the case of DMT fumarate..
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My first post/comment,
I’ve mistakenly added acetone to a mixture that has already had one pull. The solvent initially used was some type of unknown “fuel.” This mixture has been sitting n several different bottles n a dark shed for the past 3 months. 3 distinct layers have formed. A milk jug cracked & most liquid evaporated leaving a black glob. Half of that glob I added NAPTHA which has been sitting for past wk.
Can I move forward or have I destroyed any chances of reclaiming DMT?
This seems like the appropriate place to ask this : Would most consider powder mhrb a good choice for someone's first extraction attempt? I worry that maybe powder quality is less consistent than the whole product ? I checked the handbook and it did not go in to this
MHRB is the easiest source to extract from because there is almost nothing else in it.
But with powder it depends how fine. loose free flowing pulp type powder that kind of resembles plant matter still, thats probably ok. but something actually seived like dust? they could have diluted it with other leftover parts of the tree, so you should apply some skepticism, especially from sources against which you have no recourse for admitting a poor yield.
avoid popup stores or ebay unless the latter has years of reviews and its in your country too. anyone who isnt thumbing the scales will fully support having a track record in the long run, provided its all fundamentally nice and legal there anyway.
?I guess a cold water extraction, because I don't have a Crock-Pot or anything to heat, I live in a nursing home. So I know that's embarrassing but I don't have like a kitchen. I have all the ingredients, I don't know what I did wrong. I put one cup of water and half a cup of vinegar then shook it and stir. Then added a couple tablespoons of lye like two until it turned to pitch black, then added the Napa shook it let it sit for 7 hours and then froze it. And I got nothing
And here we are.
It sounds like you need to let the lye react with the bark for a bit longer and mix the bark soup with the naphtha more thoroughly and more times. Letting it sit for 7 hours doesn't particularly achieve much. Maximising contact between the soup and the solvent is what accelerates the transfer of DMT into the solvent.
Is your freezer cold enough? How much naphtha did you use?
Yes the freezer is definitely cold enough, and I put it in a Starbucks frappuccino glass bottle and when I added the Napa I shook it many many times. So that it would. But I don't know if anyone knows [<snip>
- no sourcing!]. but that's where I got , is that legit?
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Sort of - there are some different possible interpretations of what "appropriate" can mean, however. Acacia root bark powder isn't necessarily the most sustainable starting material unless, perhaps, you have your own plantation that you're thinning out.
Twigs and phyllodes ("leaves") can provide some satisfactory results without killing the tree like removal of root bark usually does. By contrast, when done correctly it's technically possible to harvest mimosa bark while still ensuring the tree's survival.
Plant acacias with active phyllodes already, and harvest them respectfully
