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Have added NaOH and am leaving overnight. Will filter tomorrow and dissolve in much less acid (brain lapse using so much the first time).
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Just for reference you should be able to dissolve about 1 gram of harmalas in about 6 ml of regular vinegar, but in practice about 10 ml is usually enough, this is of course after all the residual lye has reacted. Caapi has a range of between roughly 0,3 and 1,8 percent of alkaloids (from memory) and usually nowadays is on the low side of the spectrum, so for 250 grams you’ll be looking at between 0,75 to 4,5 grams of processed alkaloids theoretically.
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3rd extract from same batch of rb. Pretty much identical methods but this run, 1st and 2nd pulls are not giving big flakes, just bright yellow dust. Past two extracts big flakes then the third pull was like this, yellow dust. Only thing that I might have done was add rub to my sh/w mix while it was still a little warm, not hot tho
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Sounds pretty normal.
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How soon will I see crystals after putting my containers in the freezer? And do I need to wash with water before I freeze it
How soon can vary. Sometimes a couple hours but overnight is best.
You don't need to wash with water unless you know you sucked up the basic soup, in which case it still isnt required but highly advisable to water wash with sodium carbonate (washing soda) in water.
You could skip the washing if you plan to re-x after collecting the crystals but it depends on how dirty they were to start.
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Dear Fellow Inward Adventurers, I have Used the A/B Salt Tek by Cyb with Back-salting. Twice with text-book results Every Result matched those described No Worries. The Third try Resulted in an Oily mess and The Fourth resulted in almost no yield whatsoever. Made no changes to process moreover The ACRB is sourced by the same people in each case. Is "Bunk Bark Batches" a Thing? Any idea where I may have gone wrong? Thank You Respectfully, Horatio
Thank You for moving my Question to a more Appropriate Thread.
Thank You for moving my Question to a more Appropriate Thread.
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There's so many different teks and people saying this works and that works... I've got mhrb powder soaking in vinegar right now and I'm like shit which step to do next. Yes I'm definitely a noob and tired of getting done wrong by fake websites. I'm just trying to make some vape juice
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I based, filtered and then washed several times. Got nearly 6g with some residual left on the filter papers. Going to manske today and then base.
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Dissolved in vinegar and there was a fair bit of sediment/stuff. Added equal parts saturated salt solution and now cooling.
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Nice, what was the final yield?
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OK. Did the manske and have 0.75g small crystals.
I think what may have happened
I think when I was cooling the acid tea, and it went all cloudy, that I got some tap water into the vessel. With the Cl2 in our water, maybe that could be why the soln went cloudy as the salt formed quickly and very small?
Anyway, it's disappointing, as I did a lot of cooking and reducing. I've got more caapi, so am going to just follow Pictorial Guide to Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction - Harmalas - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus using NaCO3 instead of lye for the final step
I think what may have happened
0.75g
I think when I was cooling the acid tea, and it went all cloudy, that I got some tap water into the vessel. With the Cl2 in our water, maybe that could be why the soln went cloudy as the salt formed quickly and very small?
Anyway, it's disappointing, as I did a lot of cooking and reducing. I've got more caapi, so am going to just follow Pictorial Guide to Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction - Harmalas - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus using NaCO3 instead of lye for the final step
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I can understand that you’re disappointed. Especially considering that the numbers I mentioned are for freebase, then this isn’t a particularly strong result.
That said, a lot of the vine material we see these days tends to fall on the lower end of the alkaloid ranges reported in the literature. In that sense, what you obtained is actually quite in line with what has become increasingly common in recent years. I can’t say for sure why that is, but my impression is that it may be related to pressure on these plants, possibly being harvested at a younger age, which could affect alkaloid content. It’s also possible that material is sometimes mixed with other vines, although this is speculation. Either way, lower yields like this are definitely not unusual.
One thing you could try is basifying the left over liquid from the manske and see if anything else precipitates out. You never know, and it’s an easy way to double-check.
As for the CL2 it may have some effect chemically, but I wouldn’t expect it to have had a major impact on your overall yield, the concentration is very low and therefore not enough to really make a difference.
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Haha. Just did that while making breakfast after practice, and before I saw this. Massive load of creamy ppt with some NaOH.
