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I think the main issue may be the concentration, which is quite important for this step to work properly, 250 grams of caapi is not a whole lot.

If it doesn’t work the way you’ve tried it so far, my suggestion would be to base everything first. Then collect whatever precipitates out and dissolve that again in a small amount of vinegar and water, using a much smaller overall volume than before. After that, you can perform the Manske step again.
Have added NaOH and am leaving overnight. Will filter tomorrow and dissolve in much less acid (brain lapse using so much the first time).
 
Have added NaOH and am leaving overnight. Will filter tomorrow and dissolve in much less acid (brain lapse using so much the first time).
Just for reference you should be able to dissolve about 1 gram of harmalas in about 6 ml of regular vinegar, but in practice about 10 ml is usually enough, this is of course after all the residual lye has reacted. Caapi has a range of between roughly 0,3 and 1,8 percent of alkaloids (from memory) and usually nowadays is on the low side of the spectrum, so for 250 grams you’ll be looking at between 0,75 to 4,5 grams of processed alkaloids theoretically.
 
3rd extract from same batch of rb. Pretty much identical methods but this run, 1st and 2nd pulls are not giving big flakes, just bright yellow dust. Past two extracts big flakes then the third pull was like this, yellow dust. Only thing that I might have done was add rub to my sh/w mix while it was still a little warm, not hot tho
 
3rd extract from same batch of rb. Pretty much identical methods but this run, 1st and 2nd pulls are not giving big flakes, just bright yellow dust. Past two extracts big flakes then the third pull was like this, yellow dust. Only thing that I might have done was add rub to my sh/w mix while it was still a little warm, not hot tho
Sounds pretty normal.
 
How soon will I see crystals after putting my containers in the freezer? And do I need to wash with water before I freeze it
How soon can vary. Sometimes a couple hours but overnight is best.
You don't need to wash with water unless you know you sucked up the basic soup, in which case it still isnt required but highly advisable to water wash with sodium carbonate (washing soda) in water.
You could skip the washing if you plan to re-x after collecting the crystals but it depends on how dirty they were to start.
 
Dear Fellow Inward Adventurers, I have Used the A/B Salt Tek by Cyb with Back-salting. Twice with text-book results Every Result matched those described No Worries. The Third try Resulted in an Oily mess and The Fourth resulted in almost no yield whatsoever. Made no changes to process moreover The ACRB is sourced by the same people in each case. Is "Bunk Bark Batches" a Thing? Any idea where I may have gone wrong? Thank You Respectfully, Horatio

Thank You for moving my Question to a more Appropriate Thread.
 
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How soon can vary. Sometimes a couple hours but overnight is best.
You don't need to wash with water unless you know you sucked up the basic soup, in which case it still isnt required but highly advisable to water wash with sodium carbonate (washing soda) in water.
You could skip the washing if you plan to re-x after collecting the crystals but it depends on how dirty they were to start.
 
There's so many different teks and people saying this works and that works... I've got mhrb powder soaking in vinegar right now and I'm like shit which step to do next. Yes I'm definitely a noob and tired of getting done wrong by fake websites. I'm just trying to make some vape juice
 
Just for reference you should be able to dissolve about 1 gram of harmalas in about 6 ml of regular vinegar, but in practice about 10 ml is usually enough, this is of course after all the residual lye has reacted. Caapi has a range of between roughly 0,3 and 1,8 percent of alkaloids (from memory) and usually nowadays is on the low side of the spectrum, so for 250 grams you’ll be looking at between 0,75 to 4,5 grams of processed alkaloids theoretically.
I based, filtered and then washed several times. Got nearly 6g with some residual left on the filter papers. Going to manske today and then base.
 

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I based, filtered and then washed several times. Got nearly 6g with some residual left on the filter papers. Going to manske today and then base.
Dissolved in vinegar and there was a fair bit of sediment/stuff. Added equal parts saturated salt solution and now cooling.
 

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