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Oof - Lab Busted in NY

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they were selling acid and dmt to people...and they introduced an informant to dmt...

DONT SELL DRUGS
 
word up! stuff like this is not for sale! those people don't seem to know that what they are selling is a gateway to our ancestors. its way to powerful to put a pricetag on it. its like selling zombie poison to 14 year olds telling them its cocaine.
 
Well I'd rather see folks sell dmt then amphetamines or heroin or crack or meth actually. They'll find out soon enough this stuff is not to be played around with, without having their lives destroyed that is
But I could be wrong..
 
Heroin, cocaine, amphetamines have been made into the monsters they are because of prohibition. All of these things can and were used safety before prohibition. Heroin has virtually no negative health effects the dangers arise from not knowing what you are taking (adulterants) not knowing the dosage, and not have access to clean needles and safe honest information. before prohibition there were just as large of a heroin using population yet none of these problems existed.. minimal overdoses, didn't interfere with social life, and work. These people didn't steal. They had access to clean safe pure drugs and methods of ingestion they ahd no problems and lead normal productive lives just like caffeine addicts then and today. Addiction is the only issue however this can be effectively dealt with like any addiction to alcohol, caffeine or nicotine. All of these things need to be regulated as this is the only way we can effectively control, price, purity, availability... These things will allow us to minimize any negative effects. Whereas prohibition maximizes these dangers and creates many new ones. Not to mention the crime rates.
 
That is exaggerated.

You cannot compare alcoholism to meth addiction. Certain people are prone to addiction to things; that creates alchoholics, not the alchohol. I party a lot with friends, but in all honesty, I have never had alchohol when not with friends. I can't drink it for fun or to feel good or fucked up - rather, I just drink socially.

However, I guarantee you that if I started partaking of meth or heroin, I'd become addicted. Because they are extremely and physically (not simply psychologically) addictive.
 
believe SWIM when he says it..Meth was the worst drug hes ever done..the only reason hes glad he did it was because he now knows how horrible of a drug it is...it ruined his sleeping cycle for months after just a few uses...he would wake up everyday at 5pm and go to bed when the sun came up..this lasted months and months...

he cant ever see himself getting addicted to it because it was sooooo fucking awful..he never wants to touch that stuff again..and its the main reason why he will never take ecstasy..because you never know what they put in those damn pills...and they put everything in them..
 
Jorkest said:
its the main reason why he will never take ecstasy..because you never know what they put in those damn pills...and they put everything in them..
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YES!! it makes me sad because i love molly... its best to cling to distant memories rather then continually trying to relive them.... those moments i hold dear the most special of all i dare say

i try to stay clear of rolls because i know its best for me... i tasted that love and will always cherish the memories i have had with it.
 
Agree pyschosisdoses swim also loves mdma but gave up on pills a long time ago, kinda when they stopped having mdma in them :roll:

Swims recently found a very similiar thing to mdma, a combination of mephedrone and methylone. Thing is their rc's so nto much is known about them, but they have filled swims want for an mdma like high.
 
"oohhh oppression i know you mean only harm, ooooh oppression you reach out with your loooong arm oppression i wont let you near me ohhhh oppression you shall learn to fear me yes you will..."
 
Infinite I said:
Agree pyschosisdoses swim also loves mdma but gave up on pills a long time ago, kinda when they stopped having mdma in them :roll:

Swims recently found a very similiar thing to mdma, a combination of mephedrone and methylone. Thing is their rc's so nto much is known about them, but they have filled swims want for an mdma like high.
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FYI: a small non hallucinogenic dose of mescaline is very similar to MDMA.
 
SWIM agrees.. he also felt medium doses mescaline to also have mdma-like shivers or certain energetic surges, but with a peaceful psychedelic aspect to it

SWIM would like to experiment with mescaline again someday.
 
Thats good to know swim will maybe look into mescaline as he likes mdma effects, hes only ever tried 12.5 grams of san pedro, wasnt much to write home about it.
 
69ron said:
FYI: a small non hallucinogenic dose of mescaline is very similar to MDMA.
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Kind of. SWIM believes he's done MDMA cut with a very small amount of mescaline. He was a little disappointed in the effects, as they were significantly weaker than good MDMA would be and considering the price.

Infinite I said:
Thats good to know swim will maybe look into mescaline as he likes mdma effects, hes only ever tried 12.5 grams of san pedro, wasnt much to write home about it.
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SWIM thinks it better to take 20-30g, as the potency of that amount will likely vary between common and strong.
 
Oh swim realises this after the last time, it was very mild. They sell 12.5g for £14 at headshops here which isnt exactly cheap. He should splash out though to try it properly.
 
amor_fati said:
69ron said:
FYI: a small non hallucinogenic dose of mescaline is very similar to MDMA.
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Kind of. SWIM believes he's done MDMA cut with a very small amount of mescaline. He was a little disappointed in the effects, as they were significantly weaker than good MDMA would be and considering the price.

Infinite I said:
Thats good to know swim will maybe look into mescaline as he likes mdma effects, hes only ever tried 12.5 grams of san pedro, wasnt much to write home about it.
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SWIM thinks it better to take 20-30g, as the potency of that amount will likely vary between common and strong.
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I doubt any MDMA is ever cut with mescaline. Maybe cut with 2C-I or something like that, but mescaline, I highly doubt it. That sounds completely made up by the seller.

Mescaline = cacti? How did you manage to get that meaning from what I wrote?

Cacti is NOT the same as mescaline. I was specifically talking about 99% pure white odorless mescaline hydrochloride, not cacti or an impure extract of cacti or the fake mescaline often sold on the black market with is usually 2C-I or something similar. Cacti contain many other alkaloids that are active that qualitatively alter the experience of the mescaline they contain, especially with Achuma, San Pedro, and Peyote. If you take a San Pedro alkaloid extract and remove all of the mescaline from it, it’s still psychoactive and quite different from mescaline.

Please don’t mix the two up. A low does of mescaline is very similar to MDMA, but a low dose of cacti is a different experience that is unique to the cacti.
 
Swim realised cacti wouldnt be the same as mescaline, would be great if he could extract it as he could imagine it being mdma like after reports from friends, albeit higher doses.
 
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