Organic Changa???

[Fractalus]

hi all nexian!!
IMAGENERYֱ! friends of swim have smoked what he calls "organic changa"
and from search that i did i didnt found any information about it exept
it may be d limone extraction..
did anyone know about this organic changa?????

 

[Lumina]

Hey there. First of all :
No discussion on selling, buying, sourcing, acquiring, pricing, trading, receiving, distributing, mentioning pending deliveries or smuggling of drugs.

Second, please inform yourself regarding the dmt nexus attitude, in full. That should not take you more than a couple of minutes.

Third; this is what a fast search provides when looking for an organic vs. inorganic definition:

"The main difference is in the presence of a carbon atom; organic compounds will contain a carbon atom (and often a hydrogen atom, to form hydrocarbons), while almost all inorganic compounds do not contain either of those two atoms. While most inorganic compounds do not contain carbon, there are a few that do."

I am sure you can finish the math by yourself. Sure if you already know what d-limo is, you won't have difficulties figuring out by yourself what the other components of changa are. Same rules apply for the processing materials.

My guess is your "friends" are full of fairy tales and you should be careful who you're friends with.

Hope this helps.

 

[Northerner]

Perhaps your friend is just referring to the base herbs that the DMT and whatever else is laced on? I can see how that could be misconstrued or poorly explained. I use organic herbs for that too.

 

[Fractalus]

Hi all!
first of all i forgot to say that SWIM'S IMAGENERY friend have smoked what he calls organic changa in a mystirius fairy tail Jungle some where in his IMAGENERY world!

second, im talking about the extraction not the base of course..

is there a way for the IMAGENERY people in the mystirius fairy tail Jungle to make enheance leaf without the use of industrial items??

 

[Michel]

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Third; this is what a fast search provides when looking for an organic vs. inorganic definition:

"The main difference is in the presence of a carbon atom; organic compounds will contain a carbon atom (and often a hydrogen atom, to form hydrocarbons), while almost all inorganic compounds do not contain either of those two atoms. While most inorganic compounds do not contain carbon, there are a few that do." ...

This is probably NOT what Fractalus wanted to know: I assume that he uses the term "organic" like if you want to buy "organic" carrots or potatoes...:?

 

[Fractalus]

...
Third; this is what a fast search provides when looking for an organic vs. inorganic definition:

"The main difference is in the presence of a carbon atom; organic compounds will contain a carbon atom (and often a hydrogen atom, to form hydrocarbons), while almost all inorganic compounds do not contain either of those two atoms. While most inorganic compounds do not contain carbon, there are a few that do." ...

This is probably NOT what Fractalus wanted to know: I assume that he uses the term "organic" like if you want to buy "organic" carrots or potatoes...:?

thank you very much my friend! that not what i wanted to ask!
let me rephrase my quastion:
is there a way to extract dmt (where this thing is LEAGEL) without using sodium hydroxid for base and naptha for pulling and using only NATURAL elements like lime and stuff?

 

[Lumina]

There are other, more environmental friendly, methods actually, it is true.Try searching the wiki for BLAB Tek as an example, or the forum search function " extracting dmt with ethanol and sodium carbonate".
But even so, you will still encounter the pressence of one or more inorganic compounds. Lime ( calcium hydroxide ) has the chemical formula CaOH and is inorganic, but as with NaOH, it is caustic, and these can be used in numerous applications including that of cosmetics, food and drinking water industry.
As far as solvent environmental safety goes, I guess it is fine to say that d-limo has a friendlier profile. Though regarding this matter imo, friendliesness twoards the environment solely relies on the end user of these chemicals, and how one chooses to work with such things when it comes to e.g handling, storage or disposal. Imo, all elements are natural, even naphtha which is part of the organic hydrocarbons family.
My opinion is that these compounds have a safe profile as long as anyone handling them respects and uses them with the neccessary care.
Look, as long as the herbs contained in that blend are pesticide free, grown without synthetic additives and picked from natural habitats ( which of course Brazil jungle can provide) I guess you could call it organic.But so could the rest of the people making such blends, though I havent until yet hear anyone pinpoint such terms when it comes to these things because maybe that's the way these things are already. Until there will be people waving their synthetic blends around here or elsewhere ( and that really is undesirable and defying every aspect of the purpose of using plant based medicine, pr entheogens if you like ) in my point of view, these things will remain organic. All.:thumb_up:
As for organic vs. inorganic classification,it is good to know that it appeared (first in the 8th century) mainly as a way to differentiate between the vegetal and animal reign substances ( organic ) vs. mineral reign substances (mid world inorganic/atomic).
Nothing un-natural really.

 

[Elemi]

DMT is illegal most everywhere in pure form, MHRB, ACRB, Phalaris materials are fine to possess and buy (powdered root bark has been known to raise red flags).

If you're just after a tek to produce an effective but ugly looking end product using food safe ingredients I would reccomend this one. Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

Maybe there's a newer and improved guide out there but this one I know works and probably wont be too harsh on thy lung.

Be happy!

 

[SnozzleBerry]

DMT is illegal most everywhere in pure form, MHRB, ACRB, Phalaris materials are fine to possess and buy (powdered root bark has been known to raise red flags).

Technically, this is not the case in the US and certain other jurisdictions. Specifically, in the US, any material that contains any scheduled substance is technically illegal. This is one of the reasons why people have been charged with kilos of DMT.

For more info, please see On the Legal Status of DMT Source Plants in the US (with a discussion of the religious use defense)

 

[dreamer042]

is there a way to extract dmt (where this thing is LEAGEL) without using sodium hydroxid for base and naptha for pulling and using only NATURAL elements like lime and stuff?

You are probabaly lookking for something like this. Though we actually have a whole subforum devoted to such methods.

 

[Mindlusion]

is there a way to extract dmt (where this thing is LEAGEL) without using sodium hydroxid for base and naptha for pulling and using only NATURAL elements like lime and stuff?

You can also make your own 'organic' sodium hydroxide by mixing soda ash with lime