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freebased acetates dont crystalize, might be because of n-oxide presence and/or more plant oils that acetates pull.... Works perfectly for infusing changa, though.. SWIM's testing right now the difference between freebasing acetates with sodium carbonate and pulling with IPA, and pulling with Acetone.. results will follow once its evapped.

SWIM also wants to test freebasing fumarates with fat's conversion vs pulling with IPA vs pulling with acetone
 
swim just smeared some on a rolling paper and rolled a herbal joint with it and he

almost threw up, has somewhat of a vinegar acidic taste to it. swim also didnt notice

any real effects but then again he couldn't hit it very hard be cause it was soo raunchy ..hmmmm
 
amor_fati said:
RayOfLight said:
so how do you turn it into freebase? mix with sodium carb and water? can i smoke what i have in its current form ? i was planing on just mixing what i have with some herbs .
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SWIM has little experience with converting acetates, as they're a bit difficult to work with in terms of sodium carbonate conversion. SWIM uses this method for fumarate: Amor fati's Approach to Freebase Spice Conversion - DMT-Nexus Wiki

SWIM has smoked acetates that have been mostly devoid of the odor of acetic acid by creating a highly saturated solution and loading it dropwise into a smoking device to be used in conjunction with a bubbler. He found it to be an incredibly effective means of vaporization.

If that is, in fact, freebase spice, SWIM would imagine that it could be solidified by manual crystallization. One way determine whether it's freebase or acetate would be to try and dissolve a bit in water.
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when you say you created a highly saturated solution what do you mean exactly? maybe thats what i need to do
 
RayOfLight said:
swim just smeared some on a rolling paper and rolled a herbal joint with it and he

almost threw up, has somewhat of a vinegar acidic taste to it. swim also didnt notice

any real effects but then again he couldn't hit it very hard be cause it was soo raunchy ..hmmmm
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SWIM would suggest try it in a bubbler to help reduce the chances of inhaling vinegar and the harshness of the vapor in general and also using a proper vaporizing piece to avoid burning it.

RayOfLight said:
when you say you created a highly saturated solution what do you mean exactly? maybe thats what i need to do
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First of all, add some to a dropper bottle (difficult to say how much with acetate goo, but start with maybe a quarter full). Try to get rid of more of the excess acetic acid by propping it next to a fan in a hot water bath (SWIM suspends his next to the fan in a food dehydrator at 35C). Boil some water and begin adding it to the bottle dropwise until the contents become more runny than gooey. When in use, SWIM isn't sure but would suggest keeping it warm in a mug of hot water or something. SWIM has only used his with a bubbler, so SWIM would definitely suggest using a bubbler (any excess acetic would likely be absorbed by the water while the newly dissociated freebase vapor will pass through...SWIM wonders if it would a good to add a bit of sodium carbonate to neutralize any acid that made it to the basin to avoid possibly salting some of the vapor). SWIM would suggest trying either of these: Machine-Style Bubbler Piece - DMT-Nexus Wiki, but SWIM uses this: The Inspirator - DMT-Nexus Wiki
 
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