Orgasm same day as psychedelic use

[autodidactus]

what do you guys think about this? not talking about like during haha but like earlier in the day. i usually try not to masturbate or anything the day i'm going to use a psych but do you guys think it would have any effect?

i'm mainly talking about psychs in general but it seems like every time i plan on doing something it gets to that day and i have the strong urge to relieve myself haha. that urge sometimes wins out and i end up not taking whatever i was going to take because i feel like i may have altered my brain chemistry too much or something. i also try not to smoke cannabis or anything like that before or during either, at least until i've felt out that particular psych and am comfortable with it.

also i'm not some sex addict or anything haha. don't have a gf atm so i'm not really having sex and i only masturbate like once or twice a week if that.

jw because i kind of think of sex and whatnot as a drug considering it causes a release of a bunch of brain chemicals. i know you guys probably think of it as a material desire type thing but yea just wondering what you guys think.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

i deff think it would have an effect, just as masterbation usually has an effect on ur mood after doing it without psychadelics. ive also pondered this question many times before, i mean if i dont release for a long time than i feel my mind n body gets really frustrated and im not able to relax, but right after release can feel too relaxed, so i usually try to take a few days break before any psychadelic use, its interesting that shamans as part of the traditional dieta dont release for quiet some time, some up to like half a year/a year. So guess holding off should have benefits,

 

[unclesyd]

I have noticed that when I have sex on the come up it definitely effects my trip in a bad way(ie. effects are diminished). I do not often get the chance to do it while I am full balls to the wall, because the wife says she thinks shes turning into all sorts of things for me or something. I try to maintain a more pure essence to my trips and sex seems to mess that vibe up. Cause come on as beautiful and as full of love as it can be, it is also carnal and holds lower chakra energies or what not.... So it really aint on the top of my list when I am explorin.

With all that sad I have had wonderous experiences making the love while on the delics. Definitely worth the try, I dont think waking the monkey would be that great tripping balls though. That would just be too degrading for me. Not that I think spanking it outside of the experience wrong, just like I said i try to maintain a pure vibe. And for me that means no orgasms.:thumb_dow

 

[۩]

Well since you brought it up I personally feel sexual abstinence is bunk, but that's because it doesn't work for me. Some acid trips I even enjoy ~5 incredible orgasms. Just do whatever feels right to you. Even biologically speaking, abstaining from orgasm in most people just causes them to have wet dreams. There is a reason for that. It doesn't seem healthy at all to suppress this very natural thing. Recently a friend went in because he found a bump on his testicles, and the doctor straight up told him to have more sex. :thumb_up:

 

[autodidactus]

thanks for the responses so far!

cosmic butterfly, yea i usually abstain for a few days before as well. i don't think waiting a half year would do any extra good lol.

unclesyd, i'm actually talking about prior to ingesting anything, like earlier in the day.

house, if there was an answer i was looking for it was that one haha. and yea i actually use to masturbate daily when i was young hahaha but in the past year or so i've just been trying to have more control over my urges. that includes cannabis use which i've also stopped using daily but still do a couple times a month and eating unhealthily.

i actually read some article that talked about how if you don't orgasm then your testosterone will rise for 7 days and then drop off on the 7th day. so that's why i try to keep it to once a week. it's funny you mention wet dreams too which i don't mind because they usually coincide with a sex dream and who doesn't like those haha. i also noticed i could have lucid dreams more easily on days i abstained.

 

[endlessness]

I will side with house here, do what you feel is right.

I have been abstinent (by choice or by lack of partner) when I consumed psychedelics and for several days before, and on the other hand I have had sex before, during or after a psychedelic experience and I have noticed no difference. I have had amazing experiences or weak experiences on all of those cases.

Im not sure how masturbation differs from sex in this regard, I havent notice anything.

I think the best you can do is experiment yourself and see what works for you. Just dont come to quick conclusions from one or two experiences because there's a natural variability with psychedelic experiences, that even taking same dosage in what seems to be the same set and setting, one can have very different trips.

I think that it must also depend on how you normally deal with sex. If yu are someone that usually are very obsessed with sex in a negative way, I would think that if you abstain, your trips will certainly improve, but not because its sex, but rather because you are improving something in your life (and psychedelics tend imo, to reward life improvements)

 

[Lost travellier]

I definitely notice that if i had a sex before (up to 1-48 hours), that my journey vastly lowly (less interesting) and is shifted closer to border "bad trip".
So i always try to do the distance of time more than 2 days. I am convinced that this effect connected with energy chakras. On the other hand, once upon a time i have felt and saw unforgettable OVE during sex in love being during trip.

 

[tetra]

Even biologically speaking, abstaining from orgasm in most people just causes them to have wet dreams.

"A wet dream is God giving you a hand job." --Adam Carolla

 

[Global]

I had taken ayahuasca, had already gone through the purge and had been peaking for a while. I don't know why, but I decided to masturbate. It ended up being an incredibly satisfying orgasm. Mere minutes later, I loaded up the GVG with a small amount of black DMT (pyrolized residue collected from the GVG with alcohol) and within a minute from taking my rips, I was having my first full white light encounter with the godhead which to date remains probably my most significant, intense and euphoric experience out of any experience in my incarnate history. I simply can't think of a finer example than that to indicate that sexual abstinence is certainly not a must.

 

[autodidactus]

interesting global. kind of off topic but have you ever thought that the "godhead" you saw might have been an imposter or something?

I definitely notice that if i had a sex before (up to 1-48 hours), that my journey vastly lowly (less interesting) and is shifted closer to border "bad trip".
So i always try to do the distance of time more than 2 days. I am convinced that this effect connected with energy chakras. On the other hand, once upon a time i have felt and saw unforgettable OVE during sex in love being during trip.

do you think that maybe the leaning towards a bad trip is because of subconscious guilt or something to with preconceived notions about having sex so close to using a psychedelic?

 

[Global]

interesting global. kind of off topic but have you ever thought that the "godhead" you saw might have been an imposter or something?

The "validity" of the godhead encountered was not as essential as was the experience in and of itself, be it a simulation or otherwise. It was in itself a transcendent experience, and for me that beyond suffices.

 

[JuremaSpaceship]

For me...Sex is great on LSD. Maybe not a HUGE dose but let's say somewhere in the range of 200ug-400ug

Masturbation can also be good when I'm just starting to feel the effects of LSD , it starts the trip off with a positive vibe.

 

[Doodazzle]

Dmt is such an erotic drug for both myself and my woman.


My second dmt trip was pure sex...

Her first dmt trip she described as, well that's her business. I'll just say it was sexual.

We had sex on changa plus oral harmalas together once....



Sex has lots of taboos, in any culture. Sex is where the powerful experience is at--and where procreation is at. Powerful stuff. Socially, economically, religiously...it's the sort of thing that is just going to aquire taboos.



Abstinance...none for me, thanks.

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

DMT after "release"
..is incredible.
I have had some great journeys after an orgasm.
Though when I am frying on mushrooms,
I cant even ponder the idea of sex..
for some reason it gets to me and I cant stand the thought of it.

 

[autodidactus]

^interesting. next time this V happens i think i'll persevere

i'm mainly talking about psychs in general but it seems like every time i plan on doing something it gets to that day and i have the strong urge to relieve myself haha. that urge sometimes wins out and i end up not taking whatever i was going to take because i feel like i may have altered my brain chemistry too much or something.

i also think part of my refraining is because of what i said to lost traveller and also social conditioning telling me that masturbating is somehow wrong

 

[Lost travellier]

autodidactus wrote: Lost travellier wrote:
I definitely notice that if i had a sex before (up to 1-48 hours), that my journey vastly lowly (less interesting) and is shifted closer to border "bad trip".
So i always try to do the distance of time more than 2 days. I am convinced that this effect connected with energy chakras. On the other hand, once upon a time i have felt and saw unforgettable OVE during sex in love being during trip.

do you think that maybe the leaning towards a bad trip is because of subconscious guilt or something to with preconceived notions about having sex so close to using a psychedelic?

- No, i definitely feel the weakening "psychedelic power", "energy of the interest". I'm wait and enter in my trip as Alice in WONDERLAND, as artist which draws the space. For this needs some start potential to dissatisfactions, desires of searching for and risk. But after sex of the paint dim, imagination not to tear onward, my bird showers simply flies on direct line and feels the signs to weariness, but under it a down already begins to appear the creeping gloomy shade extending to her their own tentacles.

This pertains mainly to Meskalin, Pharma and Changa trips. Smoking to Spices too uncontrolled and short-term for me and i simply am there as watcher.
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On the other hand, sex DURING trip wholly can be very bright since energy of the inspiration and desires pushes the perception only onward and can raise this on new heights.
-Sexual energy of chakra(s) just no spent before.
Albeit for each man all can be different.

 

[Wax]

I would say follow your heart but that may be the wrong body part in this case...

I also have weird feelings about sex on mushrooms, on acid I've always been to preoccupied to think about it. After DMT I feel a strong desire for release and on mescaline...well you will just have to try that one for yourself :want:

 

[autodidactus]

interesting point LT

 

[Slappy White]

One should take great care in assuring that human biology and reproduction do not interfere with, or diminish the effects of ones drug use in any way:grin: