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overwhelmed trip (jwh+cacti+mxe)

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recently a few friends decided to explore the opportunities of 1 foot of cactus with mxe and jwh as a more controlled experience, usign the cactus as a psychedelic engine to enhancing both jwh and mxe.


after 11 hours things were pleasantly dull and the whole day had passed with minor psychedelic feelings. then a large bowl of jwh was smoked and everything went truly bonkers. in a bad bad way. this person has vast experience dealing with psychedelic pandemonium but this was what took the cake. reality quickly disbanded into geometric collages of revolving/pulsating/undulating vibrant geometry within the greater collage. everything was sinister, langauge seemingly broke down to syllabls and they were floating through this persons ears at a million miles a minute. this person though that they were crazy and permanently needed help as they were audibly (very unusual for cactus) lost in a visually geometric nightmare. this person had incredible tachycardia and tremors it was not pleasant to say the least.

when playing with combinations its good to start low. typically a foot is low but when combined with mxe+jwh (and big doses too) less cactus should have been taken.

it was a humble spanking, one may explore this combo but with more care than previously mentioned. it may yield a super potent experience with minimal reagants, or a death sentence with intense paranoia, we are still uncertain.

no more mxe for this person, the cactus forced them to acknowledge the toxicity and return to a natural path.
hail achuma
 
Thank god! I love hearing about people getting off MXE! It snuck up on psychonauts this past year...IMHO you are much better off without that stuff...
 
Cacti contain MAOI´s. I don´t know how safe it is to take MXE with that stuff, but it was probably potentiated to some extent.

I agree with house here. MXE could be as addictive as ketamine or worse and it´s still an RC so who knows what it does to you on the long term.
 
yes too many things in this one mix, scared the bananas out of its participant
 
mxe has its place, but that place is far removed from the participant at this point. it was found to be highly addictive, and though one is not physically compelled to satisfy a craving for it, mentally its hard to turn down.

id urge people try everything safe atleast once so they can understand another dimension readily, yet with this dimension it may not be necessary

this person is glad to be off mxe and is thankful for the redirection, the trip was not bad, moreso helpful, but not pleasantly.

perhaps future experiences will be lightened in conjunction with submissive behavior
 
polytrip said:
Cacti contain MAOI´s. I don´t know how safe it is to take MXE with that stuff, but it was probably potentiated to some extent.

I agree with house here. MXE could be as addictive as ketamine or worse and it´s still an RC so who knows what it does to you on the long term.


they are reputed to contain maois however... perhaps in only larger doses are those compounds enough to fully maoi a body. as in 1g being the threshold to succesfully maoi a body, unlike a foot of cactus 350-700mgs. so even if they did potentiate perhaps it was not as dangerous because of the low level of maoi activity. i read that several people have used aya/ caapi with their mxe and they were well enough to write it up so it must not be as dangerous as we previously thought (amyloid danger or soemthing) however many people report hwbr (lsa, a triyptamine) to be superiorly potentiated by cactus, but they may just be the experiences synergize between plants on a non pharmacological level.

its foolish to play with chemicals without knowing the full effects, longterm or otherwise.
 
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