Paraplegia or quadriplegia with DMT, LSD or other hallucinogenics

[LaTorre]

On monday a friend of mine which is paraplegic ask to me and other friends to take him to the country side to try a lsd blotter... I found a website where many people said that maybe LSD could induce some spazsm on people who have spinal cord injuries.. owever many people with paraplegia or quadriplegia declared to have been had many truobles with LSD.
take a look here: http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/5320-lsd-acid-trips-quadriplegia/


I'm asking myself if LSD could be good for him, but - most important - could DMT be bad for him?? what do you think, an what was your experience with DMT and people who had paraplegia??

I think that DMT could be therapy for him, because if he could reach that state of lucid dreams with DMT.. and just for example.. had a trip in which is running.. that's could be the same for another person that dreams himself flying... isn't it??

all the best

 

[EarthTrust]

There is not enough scientific proof to say that Acid would hurt someone with a spinal cord injury. But I have taken over 100 trips on acid, and I would definitely not give it to your friend, most acid these days has whats called strychnine in it, its basically rat poison. but has a painful effect on the spine for anyone. I couldnt imagine how painful it would be with a back injury..

As far as DMT goes, I would say it wouldnt hurt him.. If I have pain and I smoke dmt I completely lose contact with my body, I forget about the pain and it comes back when I come out of the trip, also, if dmt hurts your friends spine for some reason, it only last under 15 minutes and it would be over. If you gave your buddy some good acid and it had bad effects than he would be dealing with those problems in the midst of a bad trip for hours and hours... I would not suggest giving him acid, but mushrooms or dmt should be safe for him and pretty much carefree. and might actually help his back. Or help the mental aspect of it.

 

[۩]

There is not enough scientific proof to say that Acid would hurt someone with a spinal cord injury. But I have taken over 100 trips on acid, and I would definitely not give it to your friend, most acid these days has whats called strychnine in it, its basically rat poison.

Epic Fail.

 

[EarthTrust]

What part of that was "epic fail"? people all over the world make LSD in many different ways, I have known chemists who have used strychnine in small amounts in large batches of LSD. Which in turn can have serious effects on your spine, not to mention all the pressure that acid causes in your back and brain anyway. There is no way of saying that every hit of acid will have this or that in it.. unless you know the person making it you really wouldnt know.. how many times have you had two different batches of acid, from two different people and it do the exact same thing?

Sorry if that came off bad, I ment it with good intentions. Please give your thoughts instead of just saying epic fail.. I would like to hear them, as well as contafinoasette I am sure needs the advice.

Much peace and love.

Be safe, know your source, know your mind.

 

[proto-pax]

You get shitty acid bro.

Erowid LSD (Acid) Vault : Myth about Strychnine in LSD

Evidence against the myth that LSD is occasionally laced with strychnine.

www.erowid.org

 

[EarthTrust]

yeah tell me about it.. its been years since iv had good acid. they dont have shit here in michigan.. everyone here is a crack or heroin addict. dont leave much room for psychedelics.

Trust me, I have never sat back quietly when i hear or see people poorly manufacturing acid. its sad, but the problem is it cost to much to make, and in michigan people dont really care to much for eachother, because of the unemployment rate, most of the people here are out for themselves at the moment. and so it is even harder to get my hands on some notable lsd.

also, whats with the hostility gentlemen? I feel negative vibes brothers..

Much peace and love.
be safe.

 

[LaTorre]

hi earthtrust, in europe we got a lot of good lsd.. coming from holland and uk... the most common form is blotter but is not so hard (if you got money to spend) to get liquid lsd...

In any case i think the same as you about what my friend should prefer between lsd and dmt.. i think im going to give him some of it..

-does anyone know something specific about usage of psychedelic and paraplegia or quadriplegia?! (personal experience or scientific informations) PLEASE ADMINs IS SO IMPORTANT!

thanks

 

[SHroomtroll]

hi earthtrust, in europe we got a lot of good lsd.. coming from holland and uk... the most common form is blotter but is not so hard (if you got money to spend) to get liquid lsd...

In any case i think the same as you about what my friend should prefer between lsd and dmt.. i think im going to give him some of it..

-does anyone know something specific about usage of psychedelic and paraplegia or quadriplegia?! (personal experience or scientific informations) PLEASE ADMINs IS SO IMPORTANT!



PSoes anyone know the method to not only have simply visual hallucination but to get the other worlds... do you know what i mean?

thanks,
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Smoke a big eough hit and you will get there, but beware sometimes you will see stuff you wish you had not.

 

[Global]

Yeah. Seeing other worlds is pretty much a function of how much and how efficiently you can get DMT (or other psychedelic) in your system

 

[Krippledgod]

Hey mate. I happen to be a paraplegic and have done acid and dmt numerous times. I would have to say it wouldn't harm him. His legs may spasm a lot but it will subside after he's came down. As far aback pain there isn't much really. His back will feel tight but that's due to his muscles spawning. It's actually a good workout for The muscles he doesnt use on a regular basis.

Dmt expect about the same thing intence leg spasms but 0 pain for sure. It's a harmless trip to anyone. So due to several personal experience tripping while being a kripple. I say go for it. Only good can come from CID. Quad would be a different story since the chest would spasm and hinder the ability to breath.

Hope this helps some. Happy tripping mate.

 

[Krippledgod]

Oh and to reach that "other world plateu" load it up take a massive hit hold it as long ass possible exhale and hit it again. Repeat the process till youve hit it 3 times or can't hit it anymore. You'll get there

 

[Indoril_Nerevar]

There is not enough scientific proof to say that Acid would hurt someone with a spinal cord injury. But I have taken over 100 trips on acid, and I would definitely not give it to your friend, most acid these days has whats called strychnine in it, its basically rat poison.

Epic Fail.

i think epic is not a good enough word

 

[Shaolin]

What part of that was "epic fail"? people all over the world make LSD in many different ways, I have known chemists who have used strychnine in small amounts in large batches of LSD. Which in turn can have serious effects on your spine, not to mention all the pressure that acid causes in your back and brain anyway. There is no way of saying that every hit of acid will have this or that in it.. unless you know the person making it you really wouldnt know.. how many times have you had two different batches of acid, from two different people and it do the exact same thing?

Sorry if that came off bad, I ment it with good intentions. Please give your thoughts instead of just saying epic fail.. I would like to hear them, as well as contafinoasette I am sure needs the advice.

Much peace and love.

Be safe, know your source, know your mind.

OK let's keep an open mind.

So just to be clear. a) You (have) know SEVERAL LSD chemists, b) who put strychnine in LSD ? Have you directly talked to them or was this friend of friend (of a friend) type of thing ? Have you gotten any explanation from them why they "used" strychnine ?

 

[Phlux-]

acid contains strychnine ?- raff out roud (i basically distance motorboated my monitor - with coffee, on reading this)
remember the oral LD/50 of strychnine is somewhere around 50-100mg - active doses would be in mg, adding it would require the would-be-tard to purchase it
i thought we called this myth busted a while ago.

everyone responds to dmt and lsd differently - so perhaps a smaller dose than you feel is required for a test dose - if all goes well - he can try a larger dose later.

 

[SomewhatLost]

Hi there, i'm Eugene writing from Italy. I had my first changa experience some months ago and it was wow!
I didn't actually have what other people declare to be a "lucid dream".. i just had some real good feelings, and visual "stuff", but i realize that could be more inside the DMT world... Many people directly or undirectly told me about other worlds and etc..

So basically i have some real DMT now and im waiting for a good situation.

The fact is that on monday a friend of mine which is paraplegic ask to me and other friends to take him to the country side to try a lsd blotter... I found a website where many people said that maybe LSD could induce some spazsm on people who have spinal cord injuries.. owever many people with paraplegia or quadriplegia declared to have been had many truobles with LSD.
take a look here: http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/5320-lsd-acid-trips-quadriplegia/


I'm asking myself if LSD could be good for him, but - most important - could DMT be bad for him?? what do you think, an what was your experience with DMT and people who had paraplegia??

I think that DMT could be therapy for him, because if he could reach that state of lucid dreams with DMT.. and just for example.. had a trip in which is running.. that's could be the same for another person that dreams himself flying... isn't it??

I hope someone could help me, and sorry for my english i need to improve it soon

Your English is fine, but I assure you that you're misinformed regarding the strychnine. Strychnine is only active in the mg range. Even if the acid blotter were composed entirely of strychnine, you'd have to eat quite a few in order to receive any poisoning. It's an urban myth and really needs to stop getting spread around.



all the best,
Eugenio

 

[DmtHawaii87]

I have a complete spinal cord injury (paraplegic T9). Last night was the first time experiencing Dmt. I tripped six times, each time smoking it through a pipe.

Dmt caused my legs to spasm tremendously, however sitting in the half lotus position allowed me stability and control. The energy caused by the Dmt flowed through my body. I left this planet and experienced the higher meaning of life.

My sixth dose was the highest dose, I was gone. But as I returned I had my left hand on my right foot, as I was sitting in the half lotus position. I began to actually feel my foot, I began to scratch the bottom of my foot and couldn't believe it, that for that moment, i had sensation in my foot, I was able to briefly connect my brain to communicate with my body below the break. It has been four years since i broke my spine, and was diagnosed with a complete spinal cord injury. It was truly incredible.

In conclusion: perhaps my spinal cord injury isn't complete, and there is minimal communication between the brain and below the break. Dmt made me understand just how powerful the brain is and that there is so much more to be discovered about the brain and what it can and will accomplish. I felt privileged and humbled by this experience, and understand my purpose/destiny in life.

 

[semios]

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Global]

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My sixth dose was the highest dose, I was gone. But as I returned I had my left hand on my right foot, as I was sitting in the half lotus position. I began to actually feel my foot, I began to scratch the bottom of my foot and couldn't believe it, that for that moment, i had sensation in my foot, I was able to briefly connect my brain to communicate with my body below the break. It has been four years since i broke my spine, and was diagnosed with a complete spinal cord injury. It was truly incredible.

Almost cried

 

[Michal_R]

Dmt made me understand just how powerful the brain is and that there is so much more to be discovered about the brain and what it can and will accomplish. I felt privileged and humbled by this experience, and understand my purpose/destiny in life.

Wow, an amazing report.
"DmtHawaii87": please keep us up-to-date with your dmt experience. Have you tried any other psychedelics before?

 

[DmtHawaii87]

Will do. I've done mushrooms quite a few times and lsd once, although it was not good lsd.