Phenylethylamine, MAO-B, Mistletoe

[dithyramb]

Cheers, dfz, thank you for your resonance.

I don't think I will have a golden sickle with me... And about the avoiding falling on the ground custom, I believe it is an energetic oriented custom, similar to how if the mazatec don't use mushrooms picked if something negative happens on the way carrying it home... More specifically, mistletoe is associated with the sky (god(s)) (I personally can confirm that mistletoe's spirit has a "sky father" vibe to it) and falling on the ground might be interpreted as a contamination of it's essence. The ancients thought in very different ways than we do...

Yes I also considered the viscotoxins being proteins along with my subjective experience. Though I am not sure if it is the viscotoxins that cause side effects. Pharmacological naming or association can be misleading or confusing. Harmine and harmaline are often considered toxic in pharmacology...

About olive leaf, I really doubt it has its own psychoactivity. Waiting for more data from you.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

The olive leaf is somewhat incidental really, but thinking back to it I remember a sensation like the clarity of mushrooms without any of the trippy element. Logically, one can most likely ascribe this to improved brain blood flow. It was more nootropic than psychoactive.

 

[dithyramb]

The feeling of being on a threshold of a psychedelic experience... I still believe it is possible to cross this threshold with mistletoe.

This is also my experience - promising threshold of psychedelic experience is there, but this does not change to real experience with higher dose.

High doubledog. How do you prepare you mistletoe? Fresh/dry? Grinded/whole? Leaves/leaves + stems? Boil/lower heat simmer? Concentrated/unconcentrated tea?

 

[doubledog]

It was long time ago and tea was given to me by my friend, so hard to tell exactly, but I believe it was concentrated simmered tea from fresh leaves.
Some effects were noticeable also from smoked leaves, iirc.

 

[dithyramb]

Mistletoe can be completely inactive, however, for me, those growing on almonds have been the most active, and consistently so. Those growing on willows come second. There is also a qualitative difference. This year I have not studied mistletoe and I don't know if I will be able to, so a full blown psychedelic experience is still not what I have achieved. But quite a powerful psychoactivity, as in euphoria while awake and magical dream experiences when sleeping are a given for me with mistletoe harvested from almond trees.

 

[acacian]

I tried half a gram of phenethylamine crystal years ago dissolved in water and it was about 20 minutes of overwhelming euphoria. It gave "tryptamine vision' but without any specific visuals. It added very sharp edges to everything though and felt psychedelic. It was like a hybrid between MDMA and mushrooms .. very rushy. Overall enjoyable but also very overwhelming.

No idea with MAO-B interactions though.. but I believe phenethylamine has high medicinal/therapeutic potential when taken orally.. vaporized it would be hard to get that kind of doseage