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Phlux's Mescaline Extraction Tek

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Could you explain the theory behind the "acetone bomb" you speak of to remove the cellulose causing snot issues? Is this done right after the liquid has been reduced?
 
Hey thanks man, I found it shortly before you posted it lol. Anyway this is interesting and seems like it could be quite helpful so I'll have to give it a try next time. Is this likely to be helpful even if the reduced volume is not overly concentrated/syrupy as you mentioned previously?
 
well in that link - the resin would have been 24g - it was 12g tho caus 12g of cellulose was removed - therefore it was 2x as potent due to that tek.
 
ok, I guess my question was if acetone would cause the cellulose to fall out as effectively even if it was rather dilute, for example if the solution in your link was 2-4X as diluted, would this work all the same...add enough acetone and the cellulose will settle independent of how much the solution is reduced? If so, sweet!
 
soulfood said:
It seems he's using an STB tek in the example, so obviously a lot of those issues don't apply here, but he does report getting cleaner results with KOH all the same.

Is this something you have experimented with?
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Just for the record soulfood, i used KOH for my try at the tek, i have no idea of the measurements tho as i just whistled a lil tune while gradually adding it to my tea.

If you look back at page 2 of the thred you can see the picture of my final uncleaned product, pretty clean. could it be the KOH?, ill report back again soon as i will be having another go at the tek shortly with the same materials as before.

peace8)
 
soulfood said:
I think I too am going to have to get me some KOH. :)
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lots of folks report less emulsion issues with KOh vs NaOh. ime lye worys fine, you just need to add more than the "teks" say. if you add enough it totally gets slack, zero emulsions...same with KOh
 
So I didnt have any lye around but plenty of Ca(OH)... Dumped that in the tea to basify and now Ive got a very thick and nasty basic tea. Poured some limo in and shook it up but its gonna take a while to separate form the looks, its like a milkshake at the mo

hopefully by morning there is some separation

Anyone else tried using lime?


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It would seem that lime was a very bad idea. The mix has gotten very thick since I let it sit. 300ml limo was poured in and it seems to be completely miscible with the goo... Total emulsion.
Any idea's on how I could get the limo out or somehow start again? Id guess about 300grams of dry material was used so there is a decent amount of goods stuck in this god forsaken milkshake
 
antichode said:
So I didnt have any lye around but plenty of Ca(OH)... Dumped that in the tea to basify and now Ive got a very thick and nasty basic tea. Poured some limo in and shook it up but its gonna take a while to separate form the looks, its like a milkshake at the mo

hopefully by morning there is some separation

Anyone else tried using lime?


*edit*

It would seem that lime was a very bad idea. The mix has gotten very thick since I let it sit. 300ml limo was poured in and it seems to be completely miscible with the goo... Total emulsion.
Any idea's on how I could get the limo out or somehow start again? Id guess about 300grams of dry material was used so there is a decent amount of goods stuck in this god forsaken milkshake
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if its still snotty, not enough base has been added,
what your ph?
 
PH is at least 12 (hard to tell with strips tho). I have definately learnt my lesson. Lime doesnt dissolve and just makes everything cling together. There is some seperation now after a few days but the limo has so much froth on top, its going to be a mission to clean out. With a bit of luck I can decant off the tea which is still kinda thick but most of the lime has settled to a gluggy mess at the bottom

have some KOH on order for next time ;)
 
What is the advantage of making a tea first and then basifying the tea, instead of just dumping your powdered cactus in basified water?
And (i've asked this already, sorry...) what is the perfect base:water ratio? after some research i came to the conclusion that it should be around 30% NaOH...correct?
And (last question)could i just dump NaOH in the cactus tea or should i really make a lye solution first, and then add this solution to the tea?
I did my homework, but i could not find an accurate answer on those questions, thanks!!
 
teotenakeltje said:
What is the advantage of making a tea first and then basifying the tea, instead of just dumping your powdered cactus in basified water?
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As with any A/B extraction compared to an STB, you're going to get cleaner results. Also with a cactus tea, you can reduce it down whereas with a straight STB you have to add more water, which is a bitch when it comes to pulling the goods, as freebase mescaline is quite water soluble and generally the more water you have, the more pulls will be needed.

teotenakeltje said:
And (i've asked this already, sorry...) what is the perfect base:water ratio? after some research i came to the conclusion that it should be around 30% NaOH...correct?
And (last question)could i just dump NaOH in the cactus tea or should i really make a lye solution first, and then add this solution to the tea?
I did my homework, but i could not find an accurate answer on those questions, thanks!!
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I just add the base straight to the tea and shake it up pretty good until the desired pH is reached. If the base won't desolve, add a little more water.
 
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