Prayer really makes a massive and undeniable difference in one's life

[Espurrr]

lots of struggle for what is your natural state

 

[ommani]

If anyone doubts the Harmala connection with Islam, try eating a good dose of Rue, and listening to Quran recitation.

I don’t imagine that many here doubt the connection between Islam and Harmala, as there’s a well know reference to Rue in the Hadith, which I think most people here are familiar with.

There’s also a clear connection between Islam and poetry, along with modern poetry in the form of hip-hop. One of my favorite hip-hop artists is Brother Ali, who is a devout Muslim and a serious person, who also happens to have a great sense of humor. Brother Ali has an excellent podcast that I’ve listened to pretty extensively:

The Travelers Podcast with Brother Ali

Respected Hip Hop artist, activist, and Muslim community leader Brother Ali explores life’s journey with cultural icons, spiritual masters, and thought leaders from across the globe. We’re all co-travelers in the adventure of life. Ali brings us up close and personal with those special people...

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In this podcast he talks at length about Islam with deep conviction, which I’ve enjoyed listening to. However, I don’t remember ever feeling like he was pushing his views on me, which is what I think people are taking issue with in this thread.

This is more than music to me, this is ancestors
Speaking through me at the tomb of Rumi

 

[Servant]

harmala_afficianado
Just wanted to ask you something, since you are person of faith

Both in Christianity and Islam, recreational and non therapeutic drug use (intoxicants) is widely considered a sin (Haram), because it harms the body, impairs judgment, and breaks the virtue of self-control.

Many Christians view intentional intoxication as a sin because scripture teaches believers to keep a clear, sober mind and treat their bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit

In Islamic teaching, humans do not absolutely own their physical forms; rather, the body is a temporary gift and trust loaned by God (Allah) to be cared for responsibly.

So, generally speaking, Peganum Harmala has intoxicant alkaloids, i.e it is mind altering drug (and not only)

Here is my question, how do you feel about it? As a person of faith, doing something that is forbidden by Islamic teachings.

All I know Peganum Harmala is used culturally and traditionally burned as smoke or used in very specific, small-scale traditional medicine.
(This is what I found with a quick search:
Eating harmala seeds (Peganum harmala, or Syrian rue/esfand) is generally considered impermissible (haram) if consumed in doses that cause intoxication, hallucinations, or physical harm.

Don't get me wrong here, no pun intended. I just want to hear your opinion on that matter, cause I saw in others posts, those huge amounts of Harmala you taking.

Once again, don't get me wrong, this question comes from a Great Sinner which I'm.

P.S. My wonderful buds, also don't get me wrong here, this message is strictly for harmala_afficianado.
I do not impose anything on anyone.

Love all of you amazing nexians

 

[harmala_afficianado]

I'm sure they are not mad

Hopefully i'm wrong

See, this forum is not about on which side are any of us.

Exactly, specify what i did wrong then? Weren't they the ones calling my belief system illogical and i shouldn't talk in absolutes? Even though @bezevo literally said himself neither is more logical than the other, and i didn't disrespect anyone for not agreeing with me? I'm just stating what i CONFIDENTLY believe in, what's the issue?

lots of struggle for what is your natural state

The prophet muhammad PBUH struggled with delivering his message way more than i did or will do, so it's fine for me.

I don’t imagine that many here doubt the connection between Islam and Harmala

Alot of them tried proving to me that this is not the case though, that's the problem.

I don’t remember ever feeling like he was pushing his views on me, which is what I think people are taking issue with in this thread.

What do you mean exactly by "pushing"? I didn't tie them up lol, if they don't like my opinion they could have just simply ignored it, but calling it "illogical" is wrong, because my belief system is in no way more "illogical" than theirs.

harmala_afficianado
Just wanted to ask you something, since you are person of faith

Both in Christianity and Islam, recreational and non therapeutic drug use (intoxicants) is widely considered a sin (Haram), because it harms the body, impairs judgment, and breaks the virtue of self-control.

Many Christians view intentional intoxication as a sin because scripture teaches believers to keep a clear, sober mind and treat their bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit

In Islamic teaching, humans do not absolutely own their physical forms; rather, the body is a temporary gift and trust loaned by God (Allah) to be cared for responsibly.

So, generally speaking, Peganum Harmala has intoxicant alkaloids, i.e it is mind altering drug (and not only)

Here is my question, how do you feel about it? As a person of faith, doing something that is forbidden by Islamic teachings.

All I know Peganum Harmala is used culturally and traditionally burned as smoke or used in very specific, small-scale traditional medicine.
(This is what I found with a quick search:
Eating harmala seeds (Peganum harmala, or Syrian rue/esfand) is generally considered impermissible (haram) if consumed in doses that cause intoxication, hallucinations, or physical harm.

Don't get me wrong here, no pun intended. I just want to hear your opinion on that matter, cause I saw in others posts, those huge amounts of Harmala you taking.

Once again, don't get me wrong, this question comes from a Great Sinner which I'm.

P.S. My wonderful buds, also don't get me wrong here, this message is strictly for harmala_afficianado.
I do not impose anything on anyone.

Love all of you amazing nexians

In islam, khamr is haram, khamr by definition means anything that clouds the mind, not just alter it, peganum harmala is mind altering, with improper use, it could be mind clouding, just like improper use of coffee and countless other "medicines" could be mind clouding.

For me, peganum harmala is a medicine, it does not cloud my mind at all, but the opposite, it enhances and "unclouds" my mind, it helps me pray more sincerly, helps me be a better person in the eyes of allah.

So it is not khamr, the way i'm using it.

 

[ommani]

What do you mean exactly by "pushing"? I didn't tie them up lol, if they don't like my opinion they could have just simply ignored it

I’m referring to an energetic quality that I believe numerous people on this forum are responding to. Obviously, you’re not literally forcing anything on anyone.

 

[Servant]

Hopefully i'm wrong

Exactly, specify what i did wrong then? Weren't they the ones calling my belief system illogical and i shouldn't talk in absolutes? Even though @bezevo literally said himself neither is more logical than the other, and i didn't disrespect anyone for not agreeing with me? I'm just stating what i CONFIDENTLY believe in, what's the issue?

The prophet muhammad PBUH struggled way more than i did or will do, so it's fine for me.

Alot of them tried proving to me that this is not the case though, that's the problem.

What do you mean exactly by "pushing"? I didn't tie them up lol, if they don't like my opinion they could have just simply ignored it, but calling it "illogical" is wrong, because my belief system is in no way more "illogical" than theirs.

In islam, khamr is haram, khamr by definition means anything that clouds the mind, not just alter it, peganum harmala is mind altering, with improper use, it could be mind clouding, just like improper use of coffee and countless other "medicines" could be mind clouding.

For me, peganum harmala is a medicine, it does not cloud my mind at all, but the opposite, it enhances and "unclouds" my mind, it helps me pray more sincerly, helps me be a better person in the eyes of allah.

So it is not khamr, the way i'm using it.

I got you.

But don't you find it at least somehow wrong, I mean, you must take some sort of medicine to be a better person..

 

[harmala_afficianado]

I got you.

But don't you find it at least somehow wrong, I mean, you must take some sort of medicine to be a better person..

The prophet PBUH said: O servants of Allah, seek treatment. Verily, Allah did not place a disease but that He also placed its treatment or cure, except for one ailment: old age." [1, 2]

The generation we live in is designed in a way that causes alot of mental disorders and confusion, i had severe Adhd as a kid, and peganum harmala is a remedy for that, for me, and it is just a generally healthy plant for alot of stuff, why not consume it if it makes you better?

I’m referring to an energetic quality that I believe numerous people on this forum are responding to. Obviously

That's exactly the problem, all of that was simply because they didn't like my "energy", lol.

But they are totally free to reject your message , because there are many cultures on this forum, one of the rules is no preaching. And there is a good purpose for this rule I guess. We are just simple humans here.

I stated my opinion, they were completely free to not agree with it and ignore it, their problem was just the fact i was "too confident" with my opinion.

 

[Servant]

Very well

Best of luck from now on

Be well and take care