Preferred solvents for changa?

[Anenergyhealer]

Hey all,

Im going to be attempting to extract for the 1st time from mimosa hostillis, By the end off it im hoping to have some freebase DMT.

Once I have this freebase DMT I intend to mix it with a changa mix, mainly caapi as thats all I have at the moment.

Can anyone recommend the best way to mix the DMT with the mix? someone said something about hating them both up in some water, but I'm afraid by doing this ill burn off the DMT. any suggestions?

 

[ragabr]

Dissolve the spice in acetone or IPA and add the plant matter. Add in enough of the solvent to make sure all of the plant matter is covered. Allow to evaporate. No heat necessary, though a fan can help.

Freebase DMT isn't very soluble in water at all, so it doesn't make a good solvent for this.

Edit: You may want to edit your thread title to something more informative, so that if other people have a similar question, they can easily find it. Like "Preferred solvents for changa?" or something similar.

 

[d*l*b]

If you fancy pushing your blends a bit further than the traditional caapi leaf/spice changa (best to get your head around basic changa’s effects first tbh) here’s a couple of good bits of info:

A Guide to DMT Enhanced Leaf (Changa) - Changa - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

http://changa.esotericpharma.org/p/technology-of-sacred.html

 

[Anenergyhealer]

I can't express how much information and knowledge i've gained from this bloody forum!

Can I use naptha as a solvent or am i on the completly frmo track here?

 

[ragabr]

From what I understand, naptha doesn't always evaporate as cleanly as acetone or IPA so you would definitely want a fan on it, and to stir everything up several times after they look dry to get rid of any trapped/lingering fumes.

 

[Global]

I suppose naptha could work, but no one ever seems to use it. It's really not that hard to find some IPA if nothing else though at any drug store or even some corner stores. If you don't have to evaporate naptha though, you probably don't wanna.

 

[Anenergyhealer]

the thing that gets to me a little, arnt these things potentially quite harmful to our bodies?? and where soaking our mix in them meaning where going to be smoking them, or does it all evaporate?

 

[d*l*b]

In the case of acetone your body actually produces it, although I wouldn’t advise anyone to consume it deliberately. Whatever happens acetone, IPA and ethanol will evaporate.

Ethanol can also be used and if you want to go the food safe route this is your best bet. You can get (albeit very expensive, due to UK alcohol taxation) ethanol that is suitable for consumption in the UK from Polish shops or on the internet, look out for Spirytus Rektyfikowany.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

I just use regular ethanol, aka Everclear. It evaps pretty quickly, and smells better than those other solvents IMO. Plus which I always give a little to the changa, then a little to me!

 

[d*l*b]

Unfortunately Everclear isn’t available here in the UK, closest you will find is Spirytus Rektyfikowany or Poitín (Poitín seems to be more expensive).

A couple of links to strong vodka available in the UK:

Spirytus Delikatesowy Vodka / 50cl / 95% ABV @ £29.75

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-9042.aspx

Balkan 176 Vodka / 700ml / 88% ABV @ £35.95

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Balkan-176-Vodka-700ml/dp/B004642ETG

I think your best bet would be to have a scout around Polish shops though, I guess it will be a bit cheaper (not much though, our alcohol taxes are very high).

 

[Anenergyhealer]

has anyone ever tried damiana in any off their changa mix's?

 

[HermeticShaman]

Don't be afraid to use the acetone. I wouldn't go the naptha route, I've heard that it can result in an uneven, gummy, or gooey finished product. besides, the acetone evaporates insanely fast, but it took me upward of 3 or 4 days to get the entirety of the acetone to evaporate out of the plant product.

I'm sure damiana would work just fine. The beauty of the changa is how many options you really have. You can infuse just about anything that you would otherwise smoke, but of course many materials will have an impact on the overall experiencing of smoking it. And because of this, you also get to choose the level of spice concentration in the final product. Mine was 4 grams of spice to 5 grams of smoking blend.

If you're using caapi as one ingredient, you may want to consider making a 10x concentrated caapi leaf. I just recently ordered 4 ounces of caapi leaf and will be concentrating that for another changa mix in the works. For my first changa, I used a native american smoking blend consisting primarily of mullein, blackberry leaf, and uh... A few others, I can't recall. It turned out great though! Good luck on your project.

 

[Dorge]

All one needs for changa is everclear. Pure Ethanol.

 

[ragabr]

The beauty of the changa is how many options you really have. You can infuse just about anything that you would otherwise smoke, but of course many materials will have an impact on the overall experiencing of smoking it.

Just to clarify, changa refers to an enhanced leaf blend that includes harmalas. So any blend including caapi is automatically changa, but for blends that don't, you have to add them.

 

[DoingKermit]

HI Anenergyhealer,

I usually buy a couple 50ml of acetone from Boots pharmacy. You have to ask at the counter, but it's 1.50 a bottle and does the job. I use plain caapi leaf and mint for my changa (i love the combo) and can make it over night usually. The acetone is 99% and evaps really fast. I can get 98% polish spirits from a shop near by, but i still prefer acetone from boots. Has never let me down.

A friend has used naphtha before and it left him with weird clumpy stuff that was gooey and strange. Good luck!

 

[Turk22]

As most have said: Acetone. However be careful when you buy it. Often it is slightly diluted with water and this can cause you to run into problems. Pick up some epsom salts at the same time as the acetone, add a generous handful to your container and seal it again. Concentration gradients can be slow business and fast in others, it seems beyond my knowledge as to why. I add the salt at night and in the morning siphon off the acetone FROM THE TOP of the container. This acetone will be AT LEAST 99%.

 

[Dorge]

The beauty of the changa is how many options you really have. You can infuse just about anything that you would otherwise smoke, but of course many materials will have an impact on the overall experiencing of smoking it.

Just to clarify, changa refers to an enhanced leaf blend that includes harmalas. So any blend including caapi is automatically changa, but for blends that don't, you have to add them.

That is correct, but one can make changa with other harmala sources, such as rue.

 

[Anenergyhealer]

thanks for the help people, I have been in boots and looked onto shelf for acrtone and it comes as nail polish remover, Main ingredient is acetone but also contains a couple others, im assuming this will not be safe to use? did you say i have to ask at the coutner at boots??

 

[d*l*b]

I personally wouldn’t use nail polish remover. Ask at the counter for pure stuff, or alternatively have a look in the suppliers you can find good UK-based suppliers of both acetone and IPA.