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Wonderlust

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Hello everyone! This is SWIM's first post, and he would just like to say that he has been lurking this forum for a few weeks now and has found it to be the most informative and helpful drug related forum he has come across. All the members seem level headed, helpful, share similar outlooks as himself, and yet are still interesting to read, and not TOO serious.

Anyway, SWIM has been wanting to take psychedlics for over a year now. And has been diligently researching everything on Erowid. SWIM's only experience so far has been a sub-breakthrough dose of Salvia, which lasted a measly 2 minutes. In this experience SWIM fixated on the texture of his carpet and saw the viewpoint of a small bug. The carpet became a 3-D plane, with the cottage-cheese like bumps and ridges dominating the landscape. It was also, for lack of better terms, a psychedelic purple color on the left, and a psychedelic green color on the right (It's hard to describe what hue the colors necessarily were, other than they were light purple and light green). Afterwards, SWIM was covered in sweat, but felt very good and light, and spent about 5 minutes afterwards just running around the room jumping up and down, because it felt like he could jump about 5 feet higher now.

SWIM has wanted to delve deeper into the entheogenic world, but because of his lack of friends that are interested in hallucinogens, his lack of access to them, and his living arrangements (parents). He has had to put it on the back burner for a while. This is why, when SWIM finally learned that DMT and Mushrooms could be easily extracted and grown, he was very excited! :d

When the weather gets warmer, SWIM is going to have alot more money and freetime, and would like to extract DMT and grow mushies himself. He plans to do a simple STB extraction with some Mimosa, and plans to grow some Psilocybe cubensis in a mycobag. SWIM plans to use these substances only with friends, not to sell them.

However, SWIM has just visited the Mycotopia forums, and after reading some very paranoid archived forums he needs to have his mind settled. He knows, realistically, that his concerns are overblown...but would still like some definitive answers to set his mind at ease once and for all :)

1) Are Mimosa hostilis bark and Psilocybe cubensis spores purchases monitored? What about the necessary supplies like Lye, glassware, and naphtha? SWIM plans to make most of his purchases online with a debit card.

2) What are the chances that SWIM could ever get into legal trouble? SWIM isn't going to sell, but he does plan on sharing big bounties with friends. He assumes everything should be alright on this front but basically he is just disguising this question as a "what percentage of people ever get busted?"


If anyone would be generous enough to answer, SWIM has a few more questions about growing mushies as well.

1) SWIM has a limited amount of suitable hiding space to grow mushrooms, and after only a day of research has decided that using a mycobag is probably the best option for him because it doesn't require any electricity and is space efficient. He plans to spend a little more and buy pre-packed mycobags already filled with sterilized media. What are the chances of success with this route? And what are the yields he can expect from one bag?

2) SWIM is also interested in the different strains of cubes out there. Is there any noticeable difference in the trip with strains like B+ and Ecuador? If so, could somebody post a quick rundown of the differences in effects?


SWIM knows he asks a lot of questions...especially for a first post :p but would like everyone to know that all answers are very much appreciated! :d
 
I can't answer your horticultural questions, but I'm sure there are plenty here that can. You may also want to try the Shroomery. However, they are quite a different crowd...

But to answer your first questions, about privacy. What the SWIMs do here is illegal, but the chances of running into trouble are slim to none as long as you don't sell. The DEA has no real interest in arresting anyone for personal use. They spend their efforts tracking down sellers. Additionally, DMT and mushrooms aren't top priority for the feds. They're more concerned with the addictive, gang-supporting drugs.

As for whether MHRB and spore purchases are monitored or not, no one knows for sure, so just operate assuming that they are. Take a couple precautions by buying your naphtha at a nearby hardware store with cash, and for that matter buy anything you can locally. Even if you don't, I know that some people (including SWIM himself) who bought everything online and haven't met any authorities yet. Again, they aren't interested in personal use.

Furthermore, the fact that these drugs are used for spiritual reasons makes the authorities less likely to get involved. If you want to be even more safe, create a declaration like the one suggested at the bottom of the page here: http://csp.org/society/docs/telr-free_exercise.html and get it notarized. It has yet to be tried in court, but many lawyers agree that it creates the best defense possible under the Free Exercise clause and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. It only takes a few minutes to make, so why not? Notaries are usually only a few dollars and some lawyers do it for free.

The last bit is a bit unnecessary unless you plan on getting caught, but you might be the motivated type so I figured I'd mention it.

Welcome to the Nexus!
 
Kartikay said:
I can't answer your horticultural questions, but I'm sure there are plenty here that can. You may also want to try the Shroomery. However, they are quite a different crowd...

Or try shroomtalk. Much friendlier in my experience. Good luck, and welcome to the Nexus!
 
look into what variety you intend on growing and why do you intend on growing that particular variety. i think if i were to do it i'd go for azures :) just a thought! but i would def. take it to a shroom forum, i've also heard good things about shroomtalk!
 
If its stealth and simplicity you're looking for, those mycobags are a great way to go! Buy the bags, buy some spores, shoot the spores into the bag, keep them at a reasonable room temperature, and you shall have mushrooms. Definitely not the most efficient method, but really easy and discreet. The only important thing is how much spore solution you shoot into each bag, depending on the size of the bag. When I used the typical smaller ones you usually see, I split a syringe between four of them, so 2.5cc's each

I don't recall having heard anything about people running into trouble just for buying spores.
 
Trouble will always come from the people you tell about your projects. Tell even close friends that you bought it off someone else. The yare your vulnerable point and you dont want an argument to turn into blackmail or a bust right? Be smart.
 
mumbles said:
Trouble will always come from the people you tell about your projects. Tell even close friends that you bought it off someone else. The yare your vulnerable point and you dont want an argument to turn into blackmail or a bust right? Be smart.

I've seen it happen before, just please be smart about it. Especially if your intent is just for personal use, you can still get in quite a bit of trouble. So just play it safe and do what Mumbles said.. :)
 
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