Problems with MHRB extraction

[SalvadorDali]

Hi there fellow DMT enthousiasts,

This is my first post, so let me start of by saying that i love the nexus and all of its features. It has a beautifull art section, lots of information about all kinds of information and a great community of helpfull members!

After the first time i tried DMT, i was blown away by the truly wonderfull and intense experience i just witnessed. A new dimension opened up to me and i saw beautifull things i never even dreamed of. I was so enthousiastic after this amazing inner journy that i decided to make a batch for me and my friends so i could share this wonderfull expierence with them.

So i began to read through all the DMT extraction teks on this site and decided to go for the A/B tek used in the DMT Handbook. I followed all the instructions exactly as stated with a few acceptions:

- instead of Shellite for extraction is chose Ecological Washbenzene, which is a high grade form of benzene with a safe MSDS, containing nothing but C10-13 and perfume

- i used 1KG instead of 2KG of MHRB inner root bark and therefore scaled down on all other ingredients as well (boiled the MHRB acid cook down to 1L instead of 2L, used 100g of NaOH instead of 200g and used 0,5L of washbenzin instead of 1L for extraction)

Everything seemed to go perfect. However when i arrived at the last part of the process, the freeze perception, something turned out to be wrong. When the washbenzene cooled, there was no DMT crashing out of the solution! All i got was a very yellow transparent liquid, consisting of mainly washbenzene and a little bit of some other oil like substance, which could be a DMT-oxide impurity i guess.

Does anyone might know what i did wrong here? All suggestions are welcome!

Salvador Dali

 

[sbc1]

ok, whatever works for you mate and it surely is then keep at it

 

[1ce]

Yeah I tried a couple A/B methods. Strong acid -> weak base -> strong base.

I then tries weak acid to strong base.

None of these actually improved the quality of my spice, just slightly lowered my yield. What worked was the simple things, like washing my solvent and using activated carbon.

 

[sbc1]

Never used activated carbon, never even rxd, I just do the mini a/b at the end, I'll have to wait till you post what you do and see what's different

 

[1ce]

I do a single re-x. I plan on going into great detail on that particular step as well. If done right, product loss is absolutely nominal. And your glass shard will start growing in 5-10 seconds hehehe

 

[sbc1]

Ha can't wait for the write up

 

[Earthwalker]

cant wait for your post then, i do the mini a/b from earthwalkers tek which i get white fluffy crystals but not glass like yours

sbc 1 ,, if you let the solvent cool down at room temp with no added breeze for roughly three hours then sit a very slight breeze or fan on the precipe dish and let the naps evap fully instead of the freeze precipe you'll get nice big fat heavy shards instead of the fluff Snow White you get with the freeze :thumb_up:

 

[sbc1]

Thanks for the info EW I'll try that with the new batch, thanks to both you and cyb for your easy to follow teks, just waiting for the info of you about the volume's for 500g now ha

 

[Earthwalker]

Thanks for the info EW I'll try that with the new batch, thanks to both you and cyb for your easy to follow teks, just waiting for the info of you about the volume's for 500g now ha

Have you a ph meter ?? Is so you really don't need measurements or TEKs really !:thumb_up:

Just make sure you're liquid isn't thick so it mix's quite well , but remember you will lose a small percentage off you're yeild as the more you extract the more you loose !
Example if I do a 100g TEK I get 1.6% 1.6g so x by 5 = 8g
in theory but if you do a 500g TEK and you get 6.5g that would = 1.3% ya loosing 1.5 g DMT this is IME anyways !!
Now I put this down to focus ! Again example if I'm doing 100g TEK I'm focusing on a smaller bottle thinner neck easier to handle less waste ,, 500g TEK big heavy chunky bottle to throw around that makes for less enthusiasm and more can't wait to bloody finish this thing ! Lol again IME !!

 

[sbc1]

No got litmus paper, yeah was just going to do it in a big bottle, just wanted to no the size I should use, how much water, salt, lye and vinegar I should use