you mean like this?Nicita said:Thats probably the bestI'll post some pictures and reports of bioassay. :lol:
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psilocybin extraction/tincture tek
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Gone-and-Back
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I would like to know if there are any extractions out there for mushrooms that people know about that work well. I imagine that with psilocybin and psilocin, you could extract them and end up with crystaline forms of them, just like the extraction of dmt or mescaline or other such alks. So is this possible with the actives in mushrooms? If someone has an idea, I will gladly attempt it or if anyone knows of an actual tek that works, that would be best. Thanks
Also, Would these substances be smokeable in crystaline form?
Also, Would these substances be smokeable in crystaline form?
Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish
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check this out. Answers all your questions.
Gone-and-Back
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Thanks Hyper, but that guide is a bit vague...
Do you completely evap the alcohol until there is nothing but the white crystals left? What does it mean to wash the crystals in clean everclear? I am very new to this and could use some help since that tek is kinda vague.
Do you completely evap the alcohol until there is nothing but the white crystals left? What does it mean to wash the crystals in clean everclear? I am very new to this and could use some help since that tek is kinda vague.
Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish
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I have made one or 2 etoh extractions, but I just drink it. No reduction for me. As for what washing is, and the basics about general extractions, check out some of the teks in the wiki. Benzyme and others have some ideas that would work better, but involve a greater amount of knowledge/glassware/solvents to work with.
The link I gave above goes like this:
-powder dried shrooms,
-place in warm etoh and soak, repeat 2-4 times
-reduce volume of captured goodies in solution
-scrape goo/crystals up quickly and put in cold oxygen free storage
Read, read read. Understanding general extraction practices is a very useful skill
The link I gave above goes like this:
-powder dried shrooms,
-place in warm etoh and soak, repeat 2-4 times
-reduce volume of captured goodies in solution
-scrape goo/crystals up quickly and put in cold oxygen free storage
Read, read read. Understanding general extraction practices is a very useful skill
^I thought that tek yeilded nothing but sugars and stuff?
Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish
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The crystals are supposedly the unwanted stuff, the "goo" is supposed to be the goods. Again, I haven't done a full evap yet, so just summarizing the above.
alzabo
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obliguhl said:
A standardized mushroom extract is totally doable. No idea about the finer points of purification but it does concentrate well.
My experience is extracting from dried ground cyans using water with piracetam and ascorbic acid. Brought to a boil and filtered 3x. The liquid evaporated on low heat. Formed a highly active and extremely sour resin. The original plant material was completely inactive.
..fas the question's come up again, i'll repeat the 'formula':
nen888: Have you performed that extraction with satisfactory results?
..i'll add to what i wrote in post#29:
..it was active, but clearly not close to pure psilocybin..like a mild mushroom dose, duration approx 40minutes..my friend and i decided we would do the extraction again, and do each stage/wash twice and more carefully..obviously chromatographing would get the purest product..also, we hypothesized that converting it to the freebase should be more active [edit: but I don't know about the zwitteronic aspect]..then we forgot about it and never got around to it..!
beandip
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I would also like to note the individual in the story I'm writing has access to fungus but no lab equipment. He's willing to reasonably invest as he would like to perform some experiments for the story so everyone may read the results and enjoy. He's looking to be progressive as performing a tech that everyone has done before will not create a worthwhile story. A food safe version would be ideal as well. Perfecting extracts of this fun guy has been a dream of his.
@benzyme I recall you'd mentioned using a piece of equipment that uses ultra sonic vibration. This may seem a bit crude but I know an elderly medical marijuana patient that makes "RSO" using ethanol in a jar. She started using a personal vibrator on the jar and it would turn the plant matter white in a shorter amount of time then the normal week or so soak that was required. Um lol it was a higher end vibrator so I do not know if a similar function could be achieved with say a cheap vibrating toothbrush?
@benzyme I recall you'd mentioned using a piece of equipment that uses ultra sonic vibration. This may seem a bit crude but I know an elderly medical marijuana patient that makes "RSO" using ethanol in a jar. She started using a personal vibrator on the jar and it would turn the plant matter white in a shorter amount of time then the normal week or so soak that was required. Um lol it was a higher end vibrator so I do not know if a similar function could be achieved with say a cheap vibrating toothbrush?
There is some really promising reports there about vaping the extracts. One more grow and some methanol or ethanol to track down and I will end up starting some experiments..I cant wait..I have maybe 40g dry now I harvested and just started another liquid culture..I dont want to start trying extractions until I have a couple ounces dry to play around with.
^..good find jamie..
as i said somewhere earlier, a crude gunk extract i once made with a friend was mildly active vaporised..just needed better purification i thought..
as i said somewhere earlier, a crude gunk extract i once made with a friend was mildly active vaporised..just needed better purification i thought..
^do you know what the ph was of the stuff you vaped nen?..and what sort of pipe did you use? A little glass sort of bulb vape?
..pH was whatever it was in the dried caps..(presumably Not basic, which is why i'm curious as to the theory that basifiying it would improve vaporability) but who knows, maybe it is basic..gunk smoked in small glass pipe..
What about doing a defat with warm limonene then extracting into 99% isopropyl??
Easily available materials...
Using 191 Proof Everclear is ideal for consumption but in the evaporation stage you end up a high water ratio, not to mention that small bit of water can make a difference in the extraction itself.
The evaporated iso-extract can then be re-mixed into Everclear for consumption tinctures.
Easily available materials...
Using 191 Proof Everclear is ideal for consumption but in the evaporation stage you end up a high water ratio, not to mention that small bit of water can make a difference in the extraction itself.
The evaporated iso-extract can then be re-mixed into Everclear for consumption tinctures.
A friend of mine has taken a batch of frozen mushrooms out of the freezer and crushed them somewhat.
Then he proceeded to finely cut these thawed, fresh mushrooms into very fine pieces.
These fine pieces were put into a glass bottle and covered in a cgenerous amount of pure bio-Ethanol.
This was swirled around and left to sit in a hot water bath for about 45 minutes.
Then my friend strained the ethanol & the mushroom-pulp through a cotton cloth into a glass teapot.
He put the mushroom pulp into the glass bottle once more adding a small amount of fresh Ethanol. This was
swished around and left in a warm water bath for another 15 minutes. Then this too was strained through the
cloth into the teapot.
The pulp was discarded & the liquid ethanol extract was poored, from the teapot, into 2 glasses.
Now my friend has these 2 glasses of ethanol-extract on the stove, trying to evaporate it down.
It's taking forever & there's no emulsion. Does water dissolve in Ethanol? There seem to be white
flakey particles settling at the bottom of both glasses. No idea what those are yet.
Now he's wondering what to do wth these ethanol pulls. The guide Deoxy provided was rather vague.
But it doesn't mention putting the tinctures in the freezer or anything. So is my friend to put his
tinctures in the freezer or must he evaporate all the ethanol away to gain access to the goodies?
Then he proceeded to finely cut these thawed, fresh mushrooms into very fine pieces.
These fine pieces were put into a glass bottle and covered in a cgenerous amount of pure bio-Ethanol.
This was swirled around and left to sit in a hot water bath for about 45 minutes.
Then my friend strained the ethanol & the mushroom-pulp through a cotton cloth into a glass teapot.
He put the mushroom pulp into the glass bottle once more adding a small amount of fresh Ethanol. This was
swished around and left in a warm water bath for another 15 minutes. Then this too was strained through the
cloth into the teapot.
The pulp was discarded & the liquid ethanol extract was poored, from the teapot, into 2 glasses.
Now my friend has these 2 glasses of ethanol-extract on the stove, trying to evaporate it down.
It's taking forever & there's no emulsion. Does water dissolve in Ethanol? There seem to be white
flakey particles settling at the bottom of both glasses. No idea what those are yet.
Now he's wondering what to do wth these ethanol pulls. The guide Deoxy provided was rather vague.
deoxy said:
But it doesn't mention putting the tinctures in the freezer or anything. So is my friend to put his
tinctures in the freezer or must he evaporate all the ethanol away to gain access to the goodies?