Psychedelic Propaganda

[Jin]

dream_denizen,

from what I can gather from your posts (which isn't much, I'm sorry to say) you are interested in starting discussions within this community about a broad range of topics, trying to weave different topics together in new and creative ways to generate deeper understanding about the fabric of existence?
Not a bad goal, if that is what you're after (and there is quite a bit of guess work on my part to have reached this understanding of your posts). However just like everywhere, if you are interested in something specific you have to lay the foundation for it to start, unless it's already there. Hence, if you want to start this kind of a discussion, perhaps it would be best to start off with a slightly longer first post. There is a reason for example scientific publications always have an abstract a main body and a conclusion (it's to create the setting in which ideas can be communicated and understood) and though there is no need to be so structured here, it makes a big difference if you can give your thoughts some kind of structure and elaborations in order to to communicate them to us in the first place.

Because all of us are all over the place with our minds you will have to add things like motivation and just in general content. There have been really long threads here discussing various crazy and not-so-crazy theories, but we all have limited time available, so people are going to filter what threads are important to them and not.

In general I don't think there is a problem concerning your intent and what you want to discuss with respect to the views and actions of this community. We are interested and ready to engage in any meaningful discussion. However the content of your posts is very meagre and so it's impossible to spark the kind of responses that you desire. You must understand that people are not automatically on the same page when it comes to topics, but they may be very willing and excited to join a good discussion about just what you want to talk about, if only you could invite them properly by giving an introduction to the topic you wish to discuss.

As an idea you could for example introduce the topic(s) you want to discuss (general statements, summary). For further reading you can give a link to wikipedia or some other web-resource, but for the sake of communication I would say the best results will be given if you write your own brief summary of it too.
Then you can go into what questions interest you.
Elaborate on how far you've gotten with your own answers and musings, etc.

This way people will know what you actually want to talk about.

And don't be disappointed if not every post you make gets the resonance you desired. It's a matter of many factors here. sometimes it's just not the right time.

thank you Enoon , perfect

 

[blacklist666]

This borders highly theoretical yet hardly objective, nor rational; consider; Experience integration difficulties. Friend seeking help making sense of what just happened to them. Assumption I make is to start from a white sheet incorporating all ethnic / religions / fanciful sensitivities. Start with identifying the psychological makeup considering emotional / & personal "developmental" difficulties. I use a few test questions in order to ascertain their familiarity level with the belief systems, world views, religious beliefs I feel might contain the memes (as well as archetypes and scientific understandings they will grasp that contain the principles we will use in metaphor for relevancy) that I feel will be useful in making relevancy. Consider cultural indoctrination, as well as dialectics. Energy work can be as much helping a person to understand the landscapes of dreams as much as it can be making sense of traumatic events in the past. Sometimes regression within ones self can find proclivities to suppress even the most mundane of beliefs questions the simplest of accepted values we cherish. I ask a series of questions to drill down a person into categories while making it appear as idle chit chat (doing it with love) trying to gauge resistance. When I mean resistance I mean cognitive dissonance not expressed outwardly. Once I understand that, I often will give explanations of how the brain mechanically works. Psychedelic information theory (and half a dozen other buckets of information all go into here) as well as help in transcending whatever is hanging them up spiritually for often the reason why these experiences are so hard to integrate is that they can shred somebody's belief system, strengthen their convictions, or shake their resolve in their personal beliefs, so we should be sensitive to this as well as considerate in how we might be of service for them. I would have to say that in all regards, it's more like keeping a close friend or companion engaged in multiple directions where they can apply themselves, (self monitoring one's self for one's improvement in said field all the way up to 2 months after one experience to see if cognitive abilities and traits have not increased) document how thinking is streamlined, take notes, post at DMT-Nexus!



Let's say somebody tried out of body experience using said x technique in order to assist said friend in preparation towards getting ready to launch in order such that it would be less of a traumatic experience. For example, my post of my experience here: First Time Experience As Introductive Essay - Introduction Essay - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus goes into analytical detail of my experience. Imagine helping to dissect the experience in a more scientific manner (Not that we can dissect someone's brain, but rather through scientific speculation) If these assumptions get out of the way of what work is there to be done, then we could get onto defining the perimeters of where that work goes. Collaboratively I feel a piece of online web2.0 mind mapping software that doubled as a forum would be really cool so the structure of information could grow like a neurological network!

Now the gold in all this is when you can sit down and type up, (or record with permission) and then transcribe (from voice recorder) the contents of "interesting spiritual talks".

This is such a drop in the bucket of what could be done. I have reading resources coming out of my ears. Part of me feels like starting up a tracker for this site & me just seeding 3TB of stuff in order to help folks evolve themselves if they so choose. Information / knowledge is power after all, and DMT does unlock the mind, so it only seems logical. (To myself) Input?

* Did that help to answer your question, or at least vaguely clarify? I know I am still being general. The more general I start, the more specific in different areas I can become.

 

[blacklist666]

I think I will just keep these thoughts cultivating to myself, but welcome if anybody has any interests. On topic: Psychedelic propaganda (See example above) has a wide range of applications. propaganda I would see as a set structured belief system you can find in a book, in some other community. This idea simply would be somewhere between what dream_denizen is asking me to do, and what I was inviting others to contribute when filed appropriately in respective parts of the forum. Allot of it's off limits to me, and I'm learning your etiquette since I'm new to forums.

Thank you Jin for pointing that out to me. I will be more mindful in the future. =)