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q21q21 vineger lime mess up

staresatwalls

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SWIM accidently just put the d-limonene in with 1k of powdered mhrb with the appropriate amount of lime with only 2 pints of limonene and apparently i have to do stb which is alright i guess. does anyone think 2 pints of limonene is sufficient for this stb and, if so how would i go about recycling the limonene for each pull?
 
if the limonene doesnt take all the goodies, buy some more limo, recycle your limo or use naptha, toluene, xylene or else proceeding further ;)

edit: i believe the tek u talk about is about salting the solvent with vinegar? u can do the same using toluene or xylene.
U can also use naphta but then freeze precip the snow :)
 
Recycling limo would consist of washing with plain distilled water 1-2x, then acidic water 1-2x, then basic water 1-2x, then distilled 1-2x. Washing is just like salting, just keep the limo, and toss the water.

In addition to this, i think letting it sit and all letting the fine particles settle out is a good idea. Lime usually gets caught up in my limo, and putting it on my sub-woofer undisturbed for a few days gets it crystal clear, even if it was really murky before.
 
staresatwalls said:
cool, thanks. so does a freeze precip with naptha and an ammonia wash sound like the best option? aside from ordering more limonene (time being a big part).
no ammonia wash should be done, u will loose too much of the spice.
since u dont use lye as base, i dont think u should do a sodium carbonate wash ( cleaning soda, crystal soda , depends ur country )
what i would do in your case is to use naphta as solvent, freeze precip and i guess white crystals will come out. If they would be
orange, just take a little bit of hot naphta en dissolve the crystals in a minimal amount of the hot naptha. You will maybe see a yellow layer beneath and this one u can take out with a pipette, or decant. The clear naphta that u now have, let it freeze precip again and white crystals will be there again ;)
 
and like this u have the freebase form of the spice,
if u salt it with vinegar like the tek sugests u will get hygroscopic crystals
that means that they will suck up hydrogen ions from the air and become moist and almost undryable.
maybe there is a better way to solve ur problem, but thats how i would do it.
 
SWIM just wrang it out the best SWIM could in a shirt and poured a bunch of naphtha in and is continually stirring. it isn't turning too noticeably yellow now. i guess with what you said that's good. so is what SWIM's done (as far as i can tell, any questions?) good if SWIM just freeze precip's it and does a sodium carbonate wash?
 
dont throw away the limonene u have right now, its full of goodies that u can salt out with vinegar.
The naptha u use now u would shake it very hard, make sure its hot naphta so it takes all of the xtals it can take. ( i wouldnt worry about emulsions since its a drytek )
i also would let the hot naphta stand a while before freezeprecip
Please let us know how it goes :)
 
I dunno how much solvent you'll need, probably a lot. You may be able to extend the volume of you d-limonene with vegetable oils (thread here) I've heard good things about that.
Also I've heard of people using naptha and xylene mixes and the end results were great too. (d-limonene would obviously work too)
They did FASA I beleive but salting with vinegar (or whatever you chose) will work fine.

The lime STB though, that is something I was glad to get away from but you can't go back once you put the lime in!
I haven't tried it but lime + sodium carbonate = lye (and something else, not important though) so mixing in some sodium carbonate might speed things up if you are in a hurry (DANGER LYE IS AN EVIL FORCE, jk, just don't fucking touch your eyes when around it)

If you are not in a hurry then doing a pull every 2-3 days, salting with a shot of vinegar then a short of hot water (still unsure if a *repeat* is needed on that step) then just let the bark sit, solvent separate in a bottle .
After a week or two your have a bunch of pale yellow vinegar, make sure not to get the little solvent layer but boil it down (STANKY) and watch it slowly turn orange.
It is really hard to tell just by the color the concentration so you won't know how much you got until you evaporate 10 drops or w/e and measure it.
<20mg... okay. 45mg... niceeee. 60+mg... OH MAN that's a lot.

I'd really like to hear the progress on this! keep me updated and pm me any questions, my thunderbird YOU-GOT-MAILs me when I get a PM :D
 
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