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Q21Q21's *NEW?* B/A/B Extraction TEK

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q21q21

SWIM
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(SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST IN OTHER THREAD, BUT SWIM PROMISED TO POST BACK HERE)

SUP guys, SWIM finally got some WHITE crystals. SWIM thinks he has a new tek.

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Basically this is for people who want WHITE FLUFFY PURE DMT

It can work with an extraction but also to purify impure spice

WAY WAY WAY better than a carbonate wash.


SWIM has only got about .9% spice pull, but the bark is questionable (.5% with A/B or STB w/ Naptha), and TEK is still being worked out

SWIM is very confident this TEK will be able to pull 100% of the Spice all crystaline and white.

I'll just layout the general process as opposed to the specific times and stuff.

Take some MHRB and add ratio 1g/1g/15ml MHRB/LYE/WATER

SWIM uses hot tap water and a glass jar.

After SWIM is confident the bark has say long enough SWIM adds 2ml/1g Xylene/MHRB

SWIM shakes the bejesus out of the jar, SWIMS finds that it is easier to break an emulsion if it is seperated from the black slimy bark sludge.

SWIM lets the liquid sit and seperates it out with SWIM's own seperation tek (will write it in another post)

SWIM repeats with another 2ml xylene per g of MHRB

THIS IS THE KEY DIFFERENCE.

(IF purifying "dirty" freebase, start here, just evaporate it in xylene and go from this step)

SWIM doesn't let the xylene evapoprate (that is so boring)

SWIM adds some vinegar and water, ratio 1ml/4ml vinegar to water

Reason: Converts the freebase back to water soluble DMT-Acetate, but now not in bark sludge, but translucent yellow water.

SWIM hasn't tested how much vinegar is needed, but SWIM belives that at least 2x more vinegar water than xylene should be fine.

Of course SWIM thinks this is where he lost some of his yield because while he is evaporating the xylene he sees left-over bits, but xylene is taking it's sweet time to evaporate so swim doesn't know exactly if it contains any DMT, or just impurities

SWIM thinks that SWIY should try to pull the spice out of the xylene with 2 pull of vinegar water. SWIM hasn't tried this yet though

Then SWIM seperates the acidic water from the xylene, Technically there should be no DMT left in the xylene if done right.

After seperated from the xylene the acidic water is then basified to PH 14 and naptha is added to pull, 1ml per gram MHRB. 3-4 pulls

Also, there is in small issue with a foamy emulsion that has redish stuff in it. Despite the water and naptha being yellow.

SWIM just makes sure that none of it gets in the precipitation container. But SWIM is not sure whether it is "red jungle spice" or not


Anywho...

The naptha is separated, evaporated to <1/2 original volume and freezer precipitated as usual.

Can you say, fluffy white snowglobes?





Sorry for the wordyness and unsure numbers.

But SWIM just wanted to share this to see if anyone would like some white crystals who was getting yellow crap like swim.
EXAMPLE:
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Also this can be done in just a couple hours, then a night of precipitation. No long evaporation and all the yield
(At least more than SWIM was getting before)

If you use this TEK please PM me with the results and don't steal it, give me credit I pondered long about it.

Cheers peeps
 
I'm not sure, but I've had good yields with an A/B by leaving the bark to soak for a couple of days, but I also used a very low pH Hcl mix, which I don't like to do anymore.

A/B's generally give a cleaner product anyway.
 
Macre said:
Also, how do find iso's performance when used for recrystallization?/quote]
soulfood said:
I haven't used it myself. I imagine it's better than acetone, but not as good as heptane.
Isopropanol is not good for recrystallisation, the spice is extremely soluble in it (more so in acetone though) so yes, naphtha or hexane is the way to go!
 
Macre said:
Also, how do find iso's performance when used for recrystallization?
soulfood said:
I haven't used it myself. I imagine it's better than acetone, but not as good as heptane.
Isopropanol is not good for recrystallisation, the spice is extremely soluble in it (more so in acetone though) so yes, naphtha or hexane is the way to go!
 
Thank you all for your advice. If I add a recrystallisation step to my extraction I'll count out Iso. I'll probably stick to naphtha (following satisfactory results from an evap test of course).

Peace and Thanks,

Macre.
 
After reading through this thread I have to say this is not a new tek. It's a STB with an A/B cleanup.

One can go back and forth from A/B/A/B/A/B over and over and over again, with loss of yield each time you flip solvents.

I personally think a solid A/B with a defat in the acidic stage will outperform this tek; I see nothing positive this tek has that an A/B tek doesn't.

No offense to the OP. I'm not saying the tek is bad, only that it is not original.

I think this tek IS better than a STB tek, but I'm prejudice against STBs.

Also, IPA, in my experience is horrible at dissolving spice. I get more of a colloidal when I try and dissolve spice in warm IPA. I didn't get it boiling hot, just warm, so maybe at a higher temp DMT will dissolve in it.
 
I'm going to use this tek in my second extraction, for the sake of experimentation. Although my first extraction will be an A/B.

Although I've never performed an extraction, I've always felt more steered towards and A/B than a STB. Apart from the fact that I hear alot about an A/B giving a purer product (I'm all about quality), it just feels right also.

This tek is the first STB type that I've liked the look of, so I will try it for the sake of experimentation.

Peace,

Macre.
 
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