Questions about hexane and FASA

[U gO]

Hi guys... I have some questions about the three points in the title:

Here naphta is pretty expensive while exane is easy to find and lot cheaper,
Its possible in the cyb's salt tek to pull from the basic soup with exane instead of naphta pulls ?


I would like to perform a fasa extraction because i read about the infundibulum tek and i can easily found all the necessary
I ve already read that there are more recents teks with the fumaric acid, can someone explain me what tek is better?
I already have fumaric acid and can easily obtain acetone, mgso4, citric acid or ascorbic .

 

[JustCurious.]

Hey,

Try the two links below. Just a tip - in future just type in on google your query followed by 'DMT Nexus' and this should make it relatively easy to find posts on here related to your question.

Hexane as solvent

Hexane as solvent 2

 

[U gO]

Thanks and sorry for the already answered question, the problem is that i found lots of different infos about everything and it's pretty difficult for a novice to use it all, so thanks!

Again, read about the fasa conversion of freebased spice but i did not understand if:
If i perform a 3x anidrous citric acid saturated acetone soak of the MHRB or Acrb and mixing with FASA can bring a good yeld or if is preferable to perform a STB, extract the FB and then salt it to fumarate salts...
My doubt jump off because here,good qualiti grade acetone(99,5%)its cheaper to find than other solvents like exane or naphta
3€/l vs 6€/l exane vs 20€/l naphta( zippo like or ligroine as well)

The second tek that i've read is the one that says to perform pulls with xylene and reuse it after a wash with water so xylene also cost 10€/l but it can be reused so i might perform some xylene pulls then mixing the pulls with anydrous FASA and just collect the precipitate right?
Might i obtain orange coloured stuff from xylene pulls right? It just a good!
Thanks again!

 

[JustCurious.]

How much bark do you plan to use ?

If it's your first extraction keep it simple and use Cyb's Tek.

You can always use two bottles at once if you want to do a little more.

And yeah xylene should pull what is suspected to be yuremamine, but for first extractions keep it simple and just use naptha or hexane, just use what is easier to get.

And again, keep it simple - you don't NEED to convert to fumarate salts you can just keep it in an amber glass vial in the freezer that should fine for a LONG time.

 

[JustCurious.]

But fumarate salts are of course more stable regarding oxidation and resistance to heat but this is only adding to the complications if it is your first time but hey if you want to do it go for it.

 

[U gO]

Hi, thanks for the fast answer...
By the way i' ve already done extractions with cybs salt tek on a chilo of acacia, 50g each...obtaining goo sometimes, xtals some other but i make some experiences i' m still a newbie.
right now i work all in glass instruments because i tryed different nps and i see that some melt the turkey baster.
.next extraction i would like to get some xylene, pure acetone, already have fumaric acid so this is what i think to do:
100g MHRB in a jar with 700ml of d-water,
add Citric acid or ascorbic acid to ph3( maybe it will prevent heat degradation or oxidation?)-> bring to boil and let cool to room temp
Freeze thawgh 3x
Heat the jar to warm(handeable) less than 50°
Add 100g of nacl and stir until dissolving
Add 75 g of lye and stir until dissolving
let it cool overnight,
Gently warm the xylene and make 100ml pulls rolling end over end the jar to prevent emulsion formation.
Pour the xylene pull in a liter anydrous FASA (after decantation to remove small drops that may be pulled with the xilene)
until no cloudy appear...
Let it set overnight, siphon off the most of fasa and collect the xtals,
dry it
Wash the xtals with anydrous acetone to remove fumaric acid
Dry in the oven at 50° max

I' pretty sure it would work but i' m waiting for a guru that confirm!
Pre-thanks!

 

[U gO]

no one can confirm?

 

[JustCurious.]

Hey,

I've never done an FASA tek so I can't comment on anything to do with that, sorry.

A couple of points though, I don't think you should let the basic mixture cool to room temperature, it should also be warm along with the solvent.

That's all I can add, maybe post something in the FAQ section, this post is a little old and people may not be viewing it.