Quidding Caapi Leaves for sublingual dosing

[modern]

I did keep under the tongue but swallow soon after… not a true sublingual I guess.

Regardless the caapi leaves likely have too little amount of harmalas

 

[RickBh]

I did keep under the tongue but swallow soon after… not a true sublingual I guess.

Regardless the caapi leaves likely have too little amount of harmalas

Here in Brazil we have many types of caapi, some of which are much stronger than others. The green and young leaves seem stronger to me when chewed. Dried leaves seem bad to me. What type of caapi did you chew and how many leaves? The Piaroa Indians here in Venezuela also chew caapi for fishing, hunting, taking long walks and even before inhaling yopo.

 

[modern]

Meu e tucunaca I picked this type over caupuri since better cold tolerance since I'm in Southern Brasil I get "cold winters" as low as -2C a few nights

I chewed 10-12 leaves keeping them in gums and under tongue for around 10 minutes than swallow or spit out. It does provide some activation but doesn't seem strong enough considering I get stronger effects taking full dose caapi tea and the same amounts. Even 10mg of dmt benzoate causes strong effects with glossy vision and thinking... 20-25mg I get fractals.

Maybe my dmt isn't the purest but works for me.

 

[RickBh]

Could it be that the leaf contains something toxic to the kidneys, that's why no one uses it?

 

[northape]

Could it be that the leaf contains something toxic to the kidneys, that's why no one uses it?

They are too weak, imo. Leafs provide some mild state alteration and most likely used similar to coca or tobacco chewing.

 

[RickBh]

Meu e tucunaca I picked this type over caupuri since better cold tolerance since I'm in Southern Brasil I get "cold winters" as low as -2C a few nights

I chewed 10-12 leaves keeping them in gums and under tongue for around 10 minutes than swallow or spit out. It does provide some activation but doesn't seem strong enough considering I get stronger effects taking full dose caapi tea and the same amounts. Even 10mg of dmt benzoate causes strong effects with glossy vision and thinking... 20-25mg I get fractals.

Maybe my dmt isn't the purest but works for me.

Were you referring to the tea made from the stem or the tea made from the caapi leaves?

 

[modern]

Were you referring to the tea made from the stem or the tea made from the caapi leaves?

The tea I mentioned as full effects is from the vine.