Quidding leaf sources contain 5-MeO or Bufo?

[Gone-and-Back]

I have read reports of people using crystals extracted from Chaliponga and from MHRB sublingually with no MAOI's taken. This still produces effects. So, there are other actives in there that do not requires MAOI's to be active...

Can one simply quid the leaf material for a while, and achieve the same results? Lets say one has dry material, how would one rehydrate to be able to test this theory?

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Even if no one has experience with this, could someone tell me how to rehydrate the leaves? If I can at least figure that out I will give it a go.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

put the leaves in a sealed container with a wet paper towel (not directly touching the leaves), and wait.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Make sure the material is not dripping wet too, right? How long does it take?

Also, I use to make my bud moist again by placing orange peels in the bag, because the peels hold lost of moisture...would this work too? I only ask because I imagine this would add a somewhat citrus tone to the flavor of the leafs.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Make sure the material is not dripping wet too, right? How long does it take?

Also, I use to make my bud moist again by placing orange peels in the bag, because the peels hold lost of moisture...would this work too? I only ask because I imagine this would add a somewhat citrus tone to the flavor of the leafs.

orange peel would work as well (so would lettuce)
as for how long it takes, it can very.

but yes, make sure that the water stays inside the paper towel and doesn't drip out.

 

[DeDao]

Please write back after this has been tested. I would love to hear your results with dose/effects and such.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Only 2.5g was quidded, and it had some very minor effects. Felt like being stoned, and with smoking some weed the effects became a little more noticable. I wouldnt really call it anything psychedelic though.

Also, the rest of the material went into an extraction...maybe I will have more in the future to try with.

 

[DeDao]

Interesting, thanks for testing.

 

[DeDao]

2.5g dry or hydrated?

 

[Gone-and-Back]

I rehydrated it but when it was dry is when I weighed it, however I am not sure if I had rehydrated it enough...I have never quid anything before this. It was not dry and crumbly anymore, but instead slightly moist and a little flexible. Broke it all up and put in mouth for 10mins, trying not to swallow any juices that were made.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

If you are planning on trying this please let me know how it goes. I am very interested.

Also, if this plant contains those alks, and I did an extraction, does that mean the end product will be slightly active via sublingual administration?

 

[John Smith]

Did you follow any techniques to maximize oral mucosal absorption ?

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Did you follow any techniques to maximize oral mucosal absorption ?

The juices that were created from it sitting there I did my best to not swallow these and hold them in my mouth. After taking the Chaliponga though I realized that I had about 50mg of freebase harmalas that I could of taken sublingually to make the leaf more active...

 

[DeDao]

Should try again with maybe 4g and boil it in a tea.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

I know this thread is old but I have more chaliponga leaf and think I'm going to try giving this a shot again.

Dedao, why do you say to make a tea? Wouldn't that need maoi as well?

I'm thinking of hydrating four to five grams and trying with that spme time this week or weekend. I will update when I have results.