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raising kids/taking entheogens

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teotenakeltje

teotenakeltje

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well since i'm raising a three year old daughter i know it's not always easy to find the time to trip... sometimes i plan on taking mushrooms or acid or spice or...whatever and it seems like there's always something getting in between and that's just too bad! theoreticaly i could do it every evening but 1)then i now next day i have to get up early...you now my daughter stands next to my bed "daddy!wake up!let's play...let's play...let's play!" and i'm just down after all night tripping 2)in the week my girlfriend is giving me a hard time doing it...:cry:
well i don't wont to complain cause i really enjoy raising a kid but you now...i wish i had some more time!
would be nice to hear from other parents how they manage to do it or did it when they were young, and maybe there are some people who think people who have kids should not trip AT ALL!
thanks for posting

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well, in cultures where it is accepted, it is open and not hidden from children. i think this is healthy... if you want time to journey you should find someone to help with your kid the morning after or during. I guess, the cultures where it is accepted, generally have a closer and bigger social and family network, so its easier for the shamans or those interested in exploring to go off and do their journeys in peace, while another family member looks after the kids.
 
Yes, it is HARD to find time to use psycadelics while raising children. Since from my viewpoint psycadelic use is healthy for the mind and spirit I find no issues using them and being a parent. To me, psycadelics give my mind a makeover (so to speak). Things are put in perspective, my prior actions are looked at, investigated, and worked through. my wife and I have worked through many issues that we might not have been able to work through on psycadelics. I think it is a good thing for occasional recreational or theraputic (healing) use.

I however, don't think it is wise to use them while the child(ren) are awake or even home. When my wife and I decide to voyage (which is very rare now-a-days, pre-baby it was every weekend) we usually have someone watch our child overnight, so that we can fully invest ourselves in the experience, and not have to worry about getting to bed early enough to wake up with the kid.

Will I ever expose my child to psyadeclics, maybe/maybe not. If I do it will not be untill he/she is old enough to make serious decisions about his body, and the consequenses of using illegal or quasi-legal substances.

It's a hard call to make. I'm not sure where I will stand when the time comes.
 
Swim finds it hard when using shrooms etc - i.e. the trips that last quite a while, but when smoking spice he finds he can do it whenever he likes (although usually at night when the kiddies are in bed). As for exposing the kids to psychedelics, swim has had one or two mushroom journeys with his 19 year old son. His 16 year old daughter isn't interested in any of them - preferring alcohol like most youngsters. He also has two smaller kids, 8mnth and 4 years who make longer time tripping that bit harder but as he doesn't do them regularly its not really an issue.
 
Camping Trips, Grandparents, Babysitters, wifes/girlfriends. trusted friends or family memebers.

Ultimatily you don't want to have to have any responsibility with your kids while your blasted off.

Also I would recommend a short duration drug of choice such as the spice or salvia.

I have 3 year old son and now a 3 week old little girl. I did mushrooms a few days ago and spend the last half of my trip helping the wife with the little one because she couldn't stop her from crying. So I in a seemingly coherent (id say level 2 just touching the edge of 3) state I held are calmed are baby down and got thigns back in order. BUT I would of musch rather not had to deal with any of that lol.

Salvia - 5 minute mind fuck
spice - 10-15 minutes

both cases you get it out of your system and your in and out.

Just imagin your in hyperspace and your daughter has a horrible nightmare and comes screaming in your room asking for comfort while your in your drunken state. Needless to say it would probably be pretty horrible.

next round of mushrooms is going to be on a camping trip.

the low dose of dmt was really nice cuz I was still functional and only had the miner "objects breathing" and the stuff on the ceiling crawling...if I was needed I could of been there easily. (10 and 15mg doses. 15mg was like a 10mg but more intesne body high and humming sound.
 
we take turns.
One of us will do, aya or oral dmt, while the other one hangs out and meditates.
If there is an issue in any way shape or form the other parent is able to deal with it. It is no problem. We have tripper friends that understand, they are willing to babysit for the once a year journey we take together.
 
It is a big distraction from what I want to be doing. I have a four year old now and yes its great but considering my significant other is questionable about this...its why I think DMT is the way for me to go. I smoke weed or DMT after hours and that's all I need for that window of time to experience. There's a time and place for these sorts of things when the time arrives, take the opportunity! It does come seldom but that's all you need.
 
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