Hey everybody. Just wondering if anyone could reccomend a tek or two for extracting from peyote. I am fairly confident in my abilities but would appreciate recommendations ranging from beginner to intermediate. A buddy has a few buttons he's collected over the years and I'd like to see good results my first try. I've extracted from ACRB and MHRB as well as syrian rue. THANKS!
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Recommend a Tek For Williamsii?
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Any mescaline-based extraction should work, check out the wiki or the forum cacti section in general. For example 69ron's tek, or whichever other you find here. The idea is to drytek or do an A/B using limonene, xylene or toluene as a solvent, and salt it out at the end either with FASA/FASI, or dilute HCl solution, or dilute sulphuric acid, or dilute acetic acid/vinegar. I preffer the FASA/FASI way, but whatever you feel more comfortable with.
If you do an A/B, I'd recommend using a pressure cooker to make sure you get all the goodies out.
Personally I wouldnt extract from peyotes though, I'd keep growing them and extract from pedro/peruvianus/bridgesii.
Either way best of luck, and if you do that, let us know the results!
If you do an A/B, I'd recommend using a pressure cooker to make sure you get all the goodies out.
Personally I wouldnt extract from peyotes though, I'd keep growing them and extract from pedro/peruvianus/bridgesii.
Either way best of luck, and if you do that, let us know the results!
This is my favorite when it comes to cactus! I've done it many times on San Pedro! It is food safe too which is a big win for me!
69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction
and here it is again but as a regular post with some discussion which you may find useful:
Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)
This Tek is really efficient! I always eat the full spectrum product rather than purifying with MEK. Results have been wonderful!
69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction
and here it is again but as a regular post with some discussion which you may find useful:
Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)
This Tek is really efficient! I always eat the full spectrum product rather than purifying with MEK. Results have been wonderful!
To be honest, the nausea is intense! I've only been able to keep a full spectrum extract down for about 30-45 minutes MAX (with no measures taken to eliminate nausea). On an empty stomach the results were still phenomenal! Drinking some STRONG ginger tea helped me keep it down for about an hour.
Effects are felt pretty quickly (around 15-30 minutes in on empty stomach) and the whole come up lasts for about 2-3 hours. My cactus trips last anywhere from 8-16 hours depending on dose and that includes the come up and afterglow.
I generally prepare/prepared 4 feet of San Pedro split between my girlfriend and I. It really depends on the potency of your cactus. I've never extracted from Peyote before but 69ron said in the WIKI that his tek will work for San Pedro, Peruvian Torch and Peyote as well as most other mescaline containing cacti.
The only problem with a full spectrum extract is that you don't really know how much you are dosing which is why I never really go above two feet with cacti!
Hope this helps!
Effects are felt pretty quickly (around 15-30 minutes in on empty stomach) and the whole come up lasts for about 2-3 hours. My cactus trips last anywhere from 8-16 hours depending on dose and that includes the come up and afterglow.
I generally prepare/prepared 4 feet of San Pedro split between my girlfriend and I. It really depends on the potency of your cactus. I've never extracted from Peyote before but 69ron said in the WIKI that his tek will work for San Pedro, Peruvian Torch and Peyote as well as most other mescaline containing cacti.
69ron said:
The only problem with a full spectrum extract is that you don't really know how much you are dosing which is why I never really go above two feet with cacti!
Hope this helps!
in regard to the extractions based on trichocereus like those mentioned above:
what exactly is a 'full spectrum' extraction? (i'd say a water only extraction will give a fairly full spectrum)
what alkaloids or chemicals exactly is or isn't in there? compare cold processed tea or raw to an a/b...
I think most evidence people use to support full spectrum extract ideas is very subjective or hear say
or placebo (mescaline is what gets you high, the 'other alkaloids affecting the experience' is rumor spread around by people over the years. Just my opinion and dont mean to offend, but really, what are these other alkaloids and what are their properties?
there are far more alkaloids in peyote, and considerable amounts of them that might or might not be extracted properly with an acid base extraction. who knows?!
personally, i wouldn't extract lophophora, eat it or make a simple tea
what exactly is a 'full spectrum' extraction? (i'd say a water only extraction will give a fairly full spectrum)
what alkaloids or chemicals exactly is or isn't in there? compare cold processed tea or raw to an a/b...
I think most evidence people use to support full spectrum extract ideas is very subjective or hear say
or placebo (mescaline is what gets you high, the 'other alkaloids affecting the experience' is rumor spread around by people over the years. Just my opinion and dont mean to offend, but really, what are these other alkaloids and what are their properties?
there are far more alkaloids in peyote, and considerable amounts of them that might or might not be extracted properly with an acid base extraction. who knows?!
personally, i wouldn't extract lophophora, eat it or make a simple tea
dg said:
No offense taken!
I simply mean that I did not purify my end product. It was a waxy sort of goo rather than say, Mescaline HCL crystals/fluff. I guess I just assumed that there would be other alkaloids mixed in with it so I call it "full spectrum." I do not know what the other alkaloids are or might be and I do apologize if my terminology is incorrect.
My experimentation with full spectrum extractions vs extractions with further purification of cacti has brought me to the conclusion that peyote in particular is not something I want a crystalline solid from as my final product. I've noticed an overall significant difference in the experience's intensity alongside several slight differences between the refined and unrefined extracts of willies, Primarily that a full spectrum experience always seems to hold much more spiritual understanding within it.
Though reducing nausea is the main reason I started extracting, I still find that three grams of fresh shredded ginger, a cup of boiling water and a teaspoon of honey will help more than anything else I've tried at the moment.
If you're wondering how you may have a better idea of dosing a non-crystalline product, take the factor of how many doses you used to extract from and apply that to your concentrate. Ideally if you have a efficient extraction you wont be far off from your original dose.
Then again the difference between 6 and 7 buttons can make for quite a different experience
Though reducing nausea is the main reason I started extracting, I still find that three grams of fresh shredded ginger, a cup of boiling water and a teaspoon of honey will help more than anything else I've tried at the moment.
If you're wondering how you may have a better idea of dosing a non-crystalline product, take the factor of how many doses you used to extract from and apply that to your concentrate. Ideally if you have a efficient extraction you wont be far off from your original dose.
Then again the difference between 6 and 7 buttons can make for quite a different experience
Thanks, guys. A bit hesitant to do this extraction although I was excited to try mescaline for the first time. My buddy insists that there is much more product in his cactus than what I know is possible. He also insists that he used to get micro dots. Micro dots are a myth.
