Recrystalization of multiple batches

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Hey everybody, I have a question concerning the recrystalization of dmt aquired at different periods of time. I have a few different batches of spice all varying in color from orange to white. I've had the oldest a few months and the newest a few weeks. They've all been kept in air tight, glass, amber vials which are stored in the dark at room temperature. My goal is to recrystalize all the different batches down into one, removing all impurities and leaving me with just one batch of pure DMT. My concern is that this will either not work at all, or will cause a significant loss of spice (Although some loss is expected). I have read before that DMT can degrade into DMT-oxide, which is not soluble in naptha and Im worried that some of the spice could have degraded into that which would result in rendering recrystalization useless as I would loose all the dmt-oxide (which may or may not be present) and to my understanding it's still very active. I guess my questions to you are: what do you think about this in general?
Does dmt definatly degrade into dmt-oxide and how long does this process usually take?
Have you done something like this before? Thanks everyone I look forward to your input!

 

[MelCat]

Do the re-x on everything but keep all of the oxidized leftovers as well. The orange stuff you'll end up with is good too.

The rate of oxidization is dependent on several factors including how the spice was dried, how long it was left in open air, how it was stored and how it was extracted.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.. Just keep everything.. You'll end up with nice beautiful white and some grungy looking brownish/orangeish stuff.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

 

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Thanks for the fast response! So baisically if there is any dmt-oxide contained in one or more batches it should just sink to the bottom and not dissolve, while the dmt dissolves in the solvent then once frozen will precipate on top of the oxide gunk leaving me to separate the goods from the not so goods?

 

[MelCat]

You got it

 

[DudeMeetTyler]

Ok, so rather than start a new thread I figured I would just add to this one as it is applicable to my situation..

Ok so I havent smoked much spice lately as I was waiting on my gvg then a lighter then some free time.. Now that all three are available I pull out my previously slightly yellow spice to find it brown .. It was been sitting at room temperature in a dessicated container for oh I dunno .. many months to say the least, though I cant say for certain how long

But instead of pouting (for too long anyways haha) I decided to try my first recrystallization using naphtha (I have yet to come across bestine locally) andthe technique found here , while adjusting as necessary for my quantities ..

Anyways upon warming the solvent and adding it to the spice container a lot of brown stuff would not dissolve (the spice was from an a/b with no defat and 3 sodium carbonate washes). So i carried on as usual, and by the time i poured off the NP and added more (about 5 ml) there was less brown stuff than when i started..

Would it be correct to assume this brown stuff would be dmt oxide plus other impurities?
-I have dissolved the brown residue in acetone and put it into a dish to evap..

Would this brown stuff be ok to vape/smoke?
-i mean theoretically I was smoking it before when I didn't do a re-X

Thanks

 

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Actually I started putting my brown/orange leftovers in a bowl with weed and iv surprisingly had some of my most powerful experiences that way.. Def save it, it's PlENTY potent still !

 

[DudeMeetTyler]

Wicked, thanks for the reply sf.

Ill let it dry (assuming it will harden) and see how much is there, just for reference and than add an equal amount of peppermint leaf

Edit: So I don't think its going to harden. So I added a known amount of peppermint leaf in acetone. When it dries ill take the total - amount of peppermint leaf = amount of spiciness. Assuming that there is no moisture in the leafs to be lost during evaporating ..

Edit two: So after letting my re-x sit in the freezer for a few hours, it appears that the precipitate is still white with some slightly yellow patches. Though it is significantly improved from the brown before, I am wondering where did I go wrong?
-did I heat the NP too much, thus dissolving some oils in the process?
-is it possible to go from yellow to clear in just one re-x?

Thanks

 

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Overheating it is defiantly one possibility and the most likely one I can think of. I personally have never gotten clear crystal but I assume doing more re-x would defiantly produce that result.. I never felt the need to do more than one as its usually good and white but lately I've been super interest in growing a large clear crystal and I think I'm going to try it soon.. Good luck and happy travels man !