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Recrystallization - orange goo.

Kret

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So far I managed to pull 1g out of 130g MHRB (picture 1).
Decided to do recrystallization as I haven't done any washes after my naptha pulls.
I have placed a glass jar with naptha in a bath of boiling water, dissolved DMT using around 25ml which immediately turned yellow with very thick orange goo residue at the bottom (picture 2).

Is that orange goo impurities ?

Was not sure so I after getting the clean naptha out, added naptha and heated it up for 2 minutes and goo dissolved.
Poured that in 2 seperate glass flat containers which are currently in the fridge before freezer.
 

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i'm pasting my response to similar thread

DMT is Polymorfik ....it can be a clear oil ,goo , red , white , yellow , tan , oil, waxy , crystals .......it all tests as DMT , some forms are harder to vape or desolve ect but its all DMT , jungle spice debunked it tests 97% DMT
.why is this not common knowledge ? ..
.. but a water wash before putting in freezer ,good idea this should ensure most all contams gone . or so that's what reading all the ....LATEST Infot tells me .
some people can get the goo ect to rex into crystal form ect ,,

All of this is based on a few papers i read in last few years , not from my personal work

AFOF ... just uses goo or oil , for changa ,

I AM NO EXSPERT HEH SPIRT ha

i failed high school basic chemestry ,, to distracted ha ha

good luck

Polymorphism is related to allotropy, which refers to elemental solids. The complete morphology of a material is described by polymorphism

Crystal polymorphism


In crystallography, polymorphism is the phenomenon where a compound or element can crystallize into more than one crystal structure.
The preceding definition has evolved over many years and is still under discussion today.[1][2][3] Discussion of the defining characteristics of polymorphism involves distinguishing among types of transitions and structural changes occurring in polymorphism versus those in other phenomena.

Overview

Phase transitions (phase changes) that help describe polymorphism include polymorphic transitions as well as melting and vaporization transitions. According to IUPAC, a polymorphic transition is "A reversible transition of a solid crystalline phase at a certain temperature and pressure (the inversion point) to another phase of the same chemical composition with a different crystal structure."[4] Additionally, Walter McCrone described the phases in polymorphic matter as "different in crystal structure but identical in the liquid or vapor states." McCrone also defines a polymorph as "a crystalline phase of a given compound resulting from the possibility of at least two different arrangements of the molecules of that compound in the solid state."[5][6] These defining facts imply that polymorphism involves changes in physical properties but cannot include chemical change. Some early definitions do not make this distinction.

Eliminating chemical change from those changes permissible during a polymorphic transition delineates polymorphism. For example, isomerization can often lead to polymorphic transitions. However, tautomerism (dynamic isomerization) leads to chemical change, not polymorphism.[1] As well, allotropy of elements and polymorphism have been linked historically. However, allotropes of an element are not always polymorphs. A common example is the allotropes of carbon, which include graphite, diamond, and londsdaleite. While all three forms are allotropes, graphite is not a polymorph of diamond and londsdaleite. Isomerization and allotropy are only two of the phenomena linked to polymorphism.





BEZ
 
@bezevo
Thank you for educating me. I'm glad I haven't got rid of it.

I've done 4h fridge and 24h freezer and all naptha taken for evap and taken some photos of two containers and some close up of the crystals.
a1 is the re-x of the clear naptha with closeup (b1)
a2 is the re-x of the goo left at the bottom which I managed to mostly dissolve in naptha with closeup (b2)

Got a emesh vape setup to try it out later.

Thank you for all the help!
 

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Ended up with 700mg after re-x from 1g of spice. I dont know how I lost 30% but Im still learning

Still have 500g MHRB so will definitely try sodium carbonate wash next time.
 
SAVE THE SOUP that 30% is probably there , ...or so that's what i read, many INTERNET Exspirts said...... Spirt heh
 
I recently dealt with the orange goo. polymorph, oligomerization, it's all dmt yada yada, that's great if that's true, but for one reason or another after heptane re-x and decant the topmost brightest layer, and then getting crystals out of that has yielded a notably cleaner vape experience for me. based on the data here in the forums, i'm not paranoid as much as i once was about contaminants, but all i know is that i like the experience better. hard to quantify something subjective, but it's a cleaner ride. I kept most of what was left behind during decant process, and now attempting to get DMT fumarate out of it all, and would like to compare bioassay of that to DMT fumarate from non goo-containing spice.
 
IME this orange goo is not DMT, it's probably plant waxes and oils. The evidence for this is that it doesn't vapourise at the temperature the polymorphic form is supposed to. Instead it smokes and burns and it doesn't give DMT effects, just makes you feel sick. It's likely the same tarry stuff that gets left on an emesh after all the dmt has vapourised.

Go ahead and try the goo on your emesh. I predict you will only do it once!
 
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IME this orange goo is not DMT, it's probably plant waxes and oils. The evidence for this is that it doesn't vapourise at the temperature the polymorphic form is supposed to. Instead it smokes and burns and it doesn't give DMT effects, just makes you feel sick. It's likely the same tarry stuff that gets left on an emesh after all the dmt has vapourised.

Go ahead and try the goo on your emesh. I predict you will only do it once!
I've tried it the other day and it vapourised at 210C and certainly gave me DMT effects and didn't made me feel sick.
 
I've tried it the other day and it vapourised at 210C and certainly gave me DMT effects and didn't made me feel sick.
Interesting. Gaujac et al give a melting point for the polymorphic form but not a vapourisation temp. Mine didn't really vapourise so much as smoke above 250 and stank the room out.
 
When I pull it out of the Frazier, it just has floating cloudy looking things in it.And then whenever I go to dry it evaporates or goes away
 
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