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ok i didnt finish reading this thread so if its been mentioned allready - im sorry bout that.
i mentioned to house the other day in chat how i do my tea - thought it could be added here.
i always work with fresh cactus - freeze it then thaw it then blend it up with as little water as possible.
do the whole tea thing as usual (as in my cactus jelly tek - Phlux-'s Cactus Jelly Tek - Preparation - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus )
then i leave the tea in the fridge overnight
the sediments/solids drop out and in the morning the tea is clear with a layer of nasty gunk at the bottom - separate those 2 and notice how much the muck stinks
for this tek - that clear part of the tea should be evapped - i bet the strenght of the evaporate would be increased alot and therefore the amount to be consumed is reduced.
i mentioned to house the other day in chat how i do my tea - thought it could be added here.
i always work with fresh cactus - freeze it then thaw it then blend it up with as little water as possible.
do the whole tea thing as usual (as in my cactus jelly tek - Phlux-'s Cactus Jelly Tek - Preparation - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus )
then i leave the tea in the fridge overnight
the sediments/solids drop out and in the morning the tea is clear with a layer of nasty gunk at the bottom - separate those 2 and notice how much the muck stinks
for this tek - that clear part of the tea should be evapped - i bet the strenght of the evaporate would be increased alot and therefore the amount to be consumed is reduced.
I'm sorry too, Kemist.
Earlier while meditating on what 69ron had to say I realized that this thread should be as beautiful as the resin itself...
which is still palpable...
and Phlux thinks we would all benefit if we decanted the filtered tea.
Do you think this even makes a difference when you simmer chunks? This is why I didn't mention in this thread because I don't think there's any gunk when you simmer chunks.
There definitely is when you blend it all up because particles fit through the filter.
Earlier while meditating on what 69ron had to say I realized that this thread should be as beautiful as the resin itself...
which is still palpable...
and Phlux thinks we would all benefit if we decanted the filtered tea.
Do you think this even makes a difference when you simmer chunks? This is why I didn't mention in this thread because I don't think there's any gunk when you simmer chunks.
There definitely is when you blend it all up because particles fit through the filter.
I locked this topic for the moment.
I'll remove all off-topic postings and ad hominem's and I expect them to stay away from this topic!
The Traveler
I'll remove all off-topic postings and ad hominem's and I expect them to stay away from this topic!
The Traveler
kemist
John
Parrot`s wife made a jelly
solids and gunk separated in matter of few hours.
Then she boiled it down to 1/10 of initial ammount and jellied it.
Very healing indeed.
The antibiotic effects were amazing, her tonsilithis subsided for two days after taking jelly. Can imagine resin be healing as well as that jelly
Interesting thing was that more heat was used then in limo tek but potency didn`t degrade as much.Trip was sedating a bit, but the one from limo tek was sedating considerably more. About 400mg of reddish evaporate from vinegar pulls (where heat was used to aid evaporation) literally nailed ILPT to bed although he was tripping nicely for good 10 hours.
In what salt form is mescaline in the cacti? Seems be far more heat stable then acetate salt.
solids and gunk separated in matter of few hours.
Then she boiled it down to 1/10 of initial ammount and jellied it.
Very healing indeed.
The antibiotic effects were amazing, her tonsilithis subsided for two days after taking jelly. Can imagine resin be healing as well as that jelly
Interesting thing was that more heat was used then in limo tek but potency didn`t degrade as much.Trip was sedating a bit, but the one from limo tek was sedating considerably more. About 400mg of reddish evaporate from vinegar pulls (where heat was used to aid evaporation) literally nailed ILPT to bed although he was tripping nicely for good 10 hours.
In what salt form is mescaline in the cacti? Seems be far more heat stable then acetate salt.
Alright, I removed the heat from this thread so we can continue on a more solid base. 
Since this resin tek seems so promising I think we have to continue the debate on why this works so well without being overly sceptic and defensive about it. The best way to do this is to get it into a bit more scientific corner. This means we need as much data as possible (how did you create the resin in detail and what other potentiators/entheogens/medicine/drugs do you use, any other data you might think is important) and we have to leave our pride and unbelieve on the background.
I hope you can all contribute to this thread again as I know you: on a respectful base with a touch of genius.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
Since this resin tek seems so promising I think we have to continue the debate on why this works so well without being overly sceptic and defensive about it. The best way to do this is to get it into a bit more scientific corner. This means we need as much data as possible (how did you create the resin in detail and what other potentiators/entheogens/medicine/drugs do you use, any other data you might think is important) and we have to leave our pride and unbelieve on the background.
I hope you can all contribute to this thread again as I know you: on a respectful base with a touch of genius.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
69ron said:
69ron, do you mean with this that the resin contains approximitly 50 to 150mg of mescaline per gram of resin (5-15%)?
If this is the case then we can do some calculations:
* I took 3g of resin last Saturday
* 3g = 3000mg * 5-15% = 150-450mg of Mescaline
If I have a total of 30g of resin that means:
* 30g = 30000mg * 5-15% = 1500-4500mg of Mescaline
Then for the percentage of Mescaline in the original source:
* My fresh cactus I used for extraction weighted 1 kilogram = 1000g
* The percentage of Mescaline in my cactus would then be: 0.15-0.45% (1.5-4.5g of Mescaline in 1000g of fresh cactus)
End conclusion:
* 0.15 to 0.45% of Mescaline in my fresh San Pedro. Does that sound reasonable?
Kind regards,
The Traveler
Touche Guevara
Rising Star
Well a little light Googling shows one guy claiming that his fresh cactus is usually 75% water by weight, meaning that dry your yield would have been .6% - 1.8%, which is spot on.The Traveler said:
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Teotzlcoatl
Can we get a simple step by step?
1) Cut cactus into chunks
2) Simmer cactus chunks and lemon juice in crock pot for ? hours (how many hours?)
3) Put crock pot into freezer overnight
4) Cook for ? more hours (how many?)
5) Strain and remove all solids
6) Evaporate and reduce until you have a sticky resin
How much lemon juice should I add?
How do you guys do the final evaporation? Do you do it all in the crock pot or do you put it under a light or something?
Do y'all think the freezing is really needed? Could that also destroy some compounds?
1) Cut cactus into chunks
2) Simmer cactus chunks and lemon juice in crock pot for ? hours (how many hours?)
3) Put crock pot into freezer overnight
4) Cook for ? more hours (how many?)
5) Strain and remove all solids
6) Evaporate and reduce until you have a sticky resin
How much lemon juice should I add?
How do you guys do the final evaporation? Do you do it all in the crock pot or do you put it under a light or something?
Do y'all think the freezing is really needed? Could that also destroy some compounds?
okay so there is a 2.4 kg pile of cactus white inner flesh (i said id test it as i bet my short spine torch has at least 1% mesc minimum in the white flesh and i bet purity will be high) that needs to be tested.
in the past it was always blended for extraction - this time 2 batches will be done - one chopped into peices and the other blended up - yeilds can be compared and any other differences noted.
I hope this helps someone.
in the past it was always blended for extraction - this time 2 batches will be done - one chopped into peices and the other blended up - yeilds can be compared and any other differences noted.
I hope this helps someone.
"This is a very good point, SWIM has noticed that his discarded core and white flesh from extractions can kind of oxidise a very strange orange and red color, and it sometimes resists mould for prolonged periods of time.... This could be down to some alkaloids floating around in the flesh."
iv seen this too and i think its strain/species dependant - always wondered on that.
on leaving the skin on - tried it once - had a horrible waxy oily muck stuff on the top - it left like hard thick stains on my pot - il never do that again.
For some reason the tea or jelly hits hard - damn hard. if a tea is made out of a peice of cactus containing 1g mesc, the experience is so much more than consuming 1g of pure mesc. so based on this - i see no reason why these claims are exagerrated - iv had simmilar dissagreements in the past - it seems some ppl just dont realize how potent a good strain can be.
if say a 4.5% yeild is possible (and it is) then a 1kg(lets just for argument sake say its 75%(250g dry)-90%(100g) water) peice, 30cm long can contain between 11.25g - 4.5g mescaline... yep thats a good few doses - you do the maths.
iv seen this too and i think its strain/species dependant - always wondered on that.
on leaving the skin on - tried it once - had a horrible waxy oily muck stuff on the top - it left like hard thick stains on my pot - il never do that again.
For some reason the tea or jelly hits hard - damn hard. if a tea is made out of a peice of cactus containing 1g mesc, the experience is so much more than consuming 1g of pure mesc. so based on this - i see no reason why these claims are exagerrated - iv had simmilar dissagreements in the past - it seems some ppl just dont realize how potent a good strain can be.
if say a 4.5% yeild is possible (and it is) then a 1kg(lets just for argument sake say its 75%(250g dry)-90%(100g) water) peice, 30cm long can contain between 11.25g - 4.5g mescaline... yep thats a good few doses - you do the maths.
Touche Guevara
Rising Star
Good science!Phlux- said:
Observant
Nothing Stops The Void
This is how SWIM tells me takes his Mesc. these days :
Mate con Cimora
It Works fine ... He enjoys eating weed brownies with Guarana and Cola Nut in them with the drink .
Further, he has never tried it with Ephedra Herb which he thinks would be very "energetic".
He says he will test this Resin Tek very soon !
Mate con Cimora
SWIM said:
It Works fine ... He enjoys eating weed brownies with Guarana and Cola Nut in them with the drink .
Further, he has never tried it with Ephedra Herb which he thinks would be very "energetic".
He says he will test this Resin Tek very soon !
Phlux- said:
Excellent Phlux-, just excellent. I'm glad you are willing to do this testing.
So just that I get this correct:
* you will make two resins from the same cactus, one from blended cactus and one from chopped
* will you also extract the mescaline out of parts of the resin to test for the amount of mescaline in each resin?
hrmm - that wasnt exactly my intention - i was to make 2 piles - which i have done
the 2 piles are 1234g each
pile 1 was chopped up
pile 2 was blended
im making tea as usual with both but not evaporating them as i hate evaporating large amounts of water(perhaps i should tho)
then extracting off the tea and comparing results.
the 2 piles are 1234g each
pile 1 was chopped up
pile 2 was blended
im making tea as usual with both but not evaporating them as i hate evaporating large amounts of water(perhaps i should tho)
then extracting off the tea and comparing results.