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۩ said:
Hello Nexus.

I would like to report a recent finding by someone I know...

If you were to chop live pedro into fat chunks, and LIGHTLY cook, not even simmer, with a little squeeze of lemon for a few hours, and evaporated this tea by simply pouring the water out of the pot onto your dish, NOT EVEN THROUGH A FILTER
You would be able to scrape up beautiful white/yellow shiny crystals that do NOT even have the resin consistency.
Seems the resin is excess pedro material from mashing/stirring your cactus too much.
Afterward, freeze pedro and recook until no longer bitter / crystals are no longer obtained.
Cheers !
Note: These crystals are NOT to be consumed. They are for ornaMental purposes ONLY.
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Nice tek house, sounds very promising :D. Questions.. What's the difference between lightly cook and simmer? Anyone elaborate on this? SWIM's not exactly a cook... How much water should be added or at all? SWIM's a little confused.
So's SWIM to add water (just enough to cover?) + squeeze of lemon initially to the pot of cactus, keep the heat basically as low as possible, add more water if as needed during the 2-3 hours, then pour? SWIM knows it's probably really simple but losing cactus makes him sad... :cry: 😉
 
Simplistic Randamonium said:
so this is another damn it...
got like 286.6 grams very dark resin from 7 feet of padro....
any way to wash this? clean up?
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You can try performing phlux's resin clean up method.


But in that, he performs it on a reduced tea. Which means you would have to try heating up just enough water to dissolve it again, and then go from there. When he performed that experiment, it took out half of his weight because of all of the cellulose removed.
 
I've also got similar problem... done resin from a 2kgs Pachanoi, but seems like sooo hard to dry it, always gets like a goopy goo, pretty consistent. Too much to encapsulate, too goopy to work with.

Do you suggest me to heat it up, add water 'till it's all liquid, add acetone and then remove it to get out all those mucilages, cellusoid stuff?
can't acetone remove, if not mescaline, some secondary alcaloids, or anyway give a problem in product loss?

Now I've put everything in the fridge, to get it harder and more manageble.


First time for me with cacti, i'm excited as much as I'm noob =)

Thanks so much for replys

edit: actually, at this point, why should I want to dissolve resin into water... just one or two acetone washes would do the trick, wouldn't they?
 
Hi all .

50 g dry materal.
ground up.
soaked over night in lemon juse.
boiled 4 hr.
strained T-shirt.
filtered coffee filters.
redused to 6 fluid oz of
brown tar sorta liquid ish.

LABA in the morning
wish me luck.

Ill be back with results.
 
Some pholks wait for the resin to evaporate and harden up a bit so that it can be rolled into little nuggets and coated with corn starch. The resin nuggets can then be left to dry out a bit more. They store well for long periods of time.

You can 'calibrate' the essence by weight. Different cacti are just different so it's good to be patient and start low at first. To calibrate, cut the nugs into small (match head) pieces and wash 'em down with sips of water. Smaller nugs dissolve better so make them as small as you can tolerate. This is just SWIM's favorite means. Any way that gets the job done is good. SWIM has grown to actually like the taste.

You can do acetone washes to clean it up a bit but those teks can separate away some of the beneficial isomers and so you might find yourself eating both halves of your extraction. If you can tolerate the taste, just eat the nugs or drink the resin liquid. Drinking or eating a bit of cactus isn't much of a chore considering the benefits.

Native Americans don't try to dose up quickly in ceremony. They slowly chew buttons for hours without rushing. It's a nice strategy and the effects will unfold in noticable waves. Since effects last quite a long time, there's no reason at all to rush.

Some have described mesc to be a firm but gentle teacher. With a good set and setting, you might find yourself feeling very glad to be whever you are. SWIM is glad for you as well.
 
I would say yes in terms of takes longer to digest/more spread out digestion, but I would say tea (maybe due to taste?) will more likely give you nausea.

If you do resin, just make the resin balls as small as possible and it should help with digestion. Coat them in flour before swallowing so you dont taste them (dont capsule it)
 
Lol they were about 1cm in diameter most of them. Very sickening even the thought of them. So dry and bitter and sickening. Perhaps if they were like 3mm diameter and washed down with something that counters bitter tastes, that would do the trick.
 
Sure its bitter, its a mix of bitter alkaloids and salts. But you arent supposed to taste it. As I said, roll it in flour and swallow like a pill, the flour coats the resin and you wont taste at all. Just dont leave it too long in your mouth or your saliva removes the coating and you'll taste it. Put on the back of the tongue and wash down with water or some juice or whatever.
 
Let me know how it goes. I had no luck with this method but may try again sometime! Looking forward to reading your report if ya do one! ;)
 
No I didn't use a stocking. Only used 25g of Pedro and didn't notice anything other than one or two laughing fits a couple of hours in and throwing up after an hour of consumption. Next time should be more successful.
 
Brian Kerr said:
Hi all .

50 g dry materal.
ground up.
soaked over night in lemon juse.
boiled 4 hr.
strained T-shirt.
filtered coffee filters.
redused to 6 fluid oz of
brown tar sorta liquid ish.

LABA in the morning
wish me luck.

Ill be back with results.
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Results were a qualified success :)
Although my method was not the best I had very good results 13 hr of effect.
I am going to try it again with another 50 grams with an improved method.
There was tooooo much lemon juice very sour. I was able to keep the stuff down
for a good 20 min or so, barfed up the tea and thought damn another failure but it worked great.
I started to feel mussel tremors before any psychedelic effects. Is there any way to reduce the tremors ?
at the end I ate a bunch of cannabis infused caramel and that helped ease my way out of it.
I'm happy.
 
Ever hear people talk about how much they like the taste of (say) straight whiskey? I 'like' the taste of whiskey but I think that's just another way of saying I like to feel the effects of alcohol. How could something that tastes so intense, astringent, and rather caustic in your mouth be described as good tasting? Scotch whiskey leaves after-tastes of burnt oak and peat. Who would ever want to consume essence of burnt and semi-rotted plant matter that sat in a vat of alcohol for 12 years?

Try to keep the lemon juice to a minimum. You don't need much. Sometimes, bitter, astringent things can taste OK. Bitter, astringent and sour is down-right nasty...:lol:

Edit: I just re-read the Nexus Attitude section proscribing discussion of alcohol. I don't mean to promote whiskey useage but rather to describe a situation where someone can 'acquire' a tase for something that tastes awful because it has a desirable effect. I really do know people who like the taste of certain plants that might make others sick. (One example is broccoli.:? )
 
elru said:
I got a total of ~15 grams of resin from 3 "boils". I ate the first 5 grams around 930am, the second 5g around noon, and the last 5g around 3pm. I'll post a more detailed trip report later but it was a very very positive day.

I'd suggest to anyone doing this though to make all the resin balls beforehand. Trying to shape the 3rd batch of resin into balls and coat them in corn meal after having already eaten the first 2 batches was incredibly challenging.
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You chew and eat the resin could one just swallow them whole or that would be less effective?
 
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